Benefits and Work and Inclusion London have obtained counsel’s advice on possible challenges to the Pathways To Work Green Paper proposals. 

The advice suggests that at this stage there appears to be no clear or obvious route for challenge or ‘silver bullet’ regarding the ‘flagship’ elements of the policy.  Instead, individuals and organisations should focus efforts on challenging elements of the Green Paper politically as much as possible.

Benefits and Work and Inclusion London asked solicitors Leigh Day to obtain advice from counsel about the potential legal challenges to the March 2025 welfare reform proposals.  Leigh Day appointed barrister Tom Royston of Garden Court North Chambers to undertake the work.

Both Leigh Day and Tom Royston have a great deal of experience in social security law and we are grateful to them for the very detailed advice they have provided.

The advice addressed the following proposals in the Green Paper:

(I) ‘Focussing PIP more on those with higher needs’: the proposal to require at least one 4 point descriptor to be met to qualify for PIP;

(II) ‘Scrap the WCA’: the proposal to amend the process by which ill and disabled people can claim income replacement benefit, and the amount of money they receive;

(III) ‘New unemployment insurance’: the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit;

(IV) ‘Delaying access to the UC health element until age 22’: not paying 18-21 PIP recipients any extra means tested element in UC.

Looking in summary at the above proposals, counsel told us that substantial challenges to central aspects of the envisaged legislation would ‘be likely to fall at various places along a spectrum from ‘hopeless’ to ‘challenging’.”

In other words, given the information currently available, the chances of preventing the proposals being made law or overturning them subsequently appear to be limited.

In relation specifically to PIP, a range of issues were considered, including - but not limited to -the decision not to consult on this measure, challenges under the Human Rights Act 1998 and challenges under the Equality Act 2010.  But the probability of any challenge succeeding in relation to the PIP 4-point rule specifically was considered to be low and heavily dependent on circumstances.

Counsel did stress, however, that there may well be successful legal challenges in the future to elements of the above proposals, but these are likely to be to “contingent aspects of the proposals which emerge along the way, rather than to the elementary principles which were clear at the start.”

In other words, if the laws are enacted, then the courts may have a major role to play in examining the way they are interpreted and implemented but not in upsetting the basic foundations, such as the PIP 4-point rule. Benefits and Work will aim to support any such challenges in any way it can.

We are not able to publish the advice at present and we should add that it applies only to the four issues listed.  The Green Paper contains many more proposals that were not covered.

In addition, we did not ask for advice on whether the current Green Paper consultation is lawful, because our initial enquiries are primarily about proposals which are not being consulted on.

We know that this news will be greeted with considerable dismay by many readers, who had hoped that the courts could prevent such clearly cruel and discriminatory proposals coming into force.

Sadly, there seems unlikely to be ‘silver bullet’ or straightforward legal answer.

Instead, by far the best hope of preventing these cuts is to persuade MPs to pledge to vote against them, as evidence grows that the Labour Party is struggling to contain a rebellion.

As one Labour MP, Neil Duncan-Jordan, who won his seat with a majority of just 18 votes but who has 5,000 constituents receiving PIP, told the Guardian  “The whole policy is wrong. It goes without saying that if these benefits cuts go through, I will be toast in this seat.”

More facts about the effects of the cuts are being uncovered with each passing week. 

Making MPs, especially those with slim majorities, aware of how dramatically the cuts will affect claimant’s lives provides the best hope that they will never come to pass.

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    · 50 minutes ago
    what's the current situation with (LC)wca and pip reassessments, do they tend to do it the same year as stated in the award or is there any backlog currently?  
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    · 1 hours ago
    So if the reforms go through the voting stage. “severe human rights violations”. So surely the corrent form of reforms would not pass legislation on those grounds or am I missing something?
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    · 2 hours ago
    The proposed legislation will (probably) get past the first and second readings stages...what the disabled community will need to do nearer the time is to lobby the House of Lords scrutinising the legislation - and perhaps more importantly, MP's at the Committee Stage.  I hope B & W will be able to let us know who the chairman will be at the time the bill comes before the committee stage so that we can lobby him/her to ensure that there are some constructive amendments. I'm afraid I don't see the whole bill being thrown out so we may need to lobby to keep the essential parts of PIP as they are.
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    · 20 hours ago
    When does the 4 points system officially start? I am baffled, reading what people have said and those having just gone through assessments , nobody is scoring 4 and in fact getting their previously 4 scores reduced,  it seems that thousands upon thousands will be getting nothing! There must have been a miracle  pick up thy beds and walk moment I missed.  I'm moving in 2 weeks to the flat downstairs from mine, mine is 1st floor and my mobility is suffering due to neuropathy,  this move has cost me an increase in the rent of £125 extra a month for a smaller flat all because it's ground floor,  I get housing benefit  I admit but high peak only allows £490 roughly a month the rest of course you have to find,  most property here in buxton is at least £700 a month. Now I'm worried that I've made a mistake and won't be able to pay my rent. What a mess! I was a lifelong labour supporter, never ever again! This is not the working class labour I was brought up with,  they are a disgrace! 
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      · 6 hours ago
      @Kayzee November next year 
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Kayzee The  4 point change doesn't come into play until November 2026.  And presumably it will only apply to new claims as well as reassessments started after that date - but we don't have confirmation on that bit yet.   There is also no confirmation if there will be transitional protection.  And there is no confirmation if those that lose the LCRWA element of UC will be able to keep their £404 Work Allowance.  And we also know that the DWP is very good at delaying previously announced changes.  I don't see them bringing this forward, as it would be mayhem, but there are possibilities that it will be pushed back, just as UC was.  
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Kayzee I am really sorry for the worry and stress you are going through Kay, I am in the same boat and try not to overthink it but it is impossible when the Office for budget resposibility says it will be 800,000 who lose PIP but other sources say it will be 1.3million. It won't just be PIP either as if you have a partner who is a carer they will lose their carers allowance and if you claim Universal credit you will lose the LCWRA and also carers element if people lose all of these things it adds up to a staggering £14,900 per year.

      I am very worried. I am due for reassement in 2028 and did score 1 4 point previously and a 3 and a 3 2's but if they have been directed to mark people down if they can, then they will do so. I have never had to go to tribunal before but if they try and take my PIP away I will fight it every step of the way as hard as I can. I have 2 autoimmune conditions as well as 2 bowel and kidney conditions, I have a permanent catheter due to nerve damage and I am only in my 40's. I worked as a nurse previously and paid in since I was 16 years old and welfare is meant to be there to support people in genuine need. 

      I have never voted Labour as I don't trust them since Blair and I just get bad vibes from Starmer. The two Labour governments so far in my lifetime have not been for the working class they are champagne socialists and as you say a disgrace to what Labour has always stood for to champion the vulnerable and help people.
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    · 23 hours ago
    I got a response back from Lambeath palace. I will post it here.
    Thank you for being in touch to share your concerns. The Archbishop of York, the Bishop of Leicester, and the Reverend Canon Alice Kemp from the Disability Task Group issued a response on March 19th to the Government's welfare reform announcements: Response to Welfare Reform announcements | The Church of England



    A number of bishops have also spoken about this in the House of Lords over the past few months, and the Bishop of Leicester has written for publication and spoken on national news about this important issue.
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    · 1 days ago
    We have still got 18 months before any of these changes can come into affect and then their will be changes and watering down possibly.
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      · 3 hours ago
      @Leah Thanks for info 
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      · 4 hours ago
      @Bert No Bert, because they are trying to vote the changes in around June this year, so even though they won't take place until next year, the legislation will be passed way in advance. The way it's being voted in means we won't be able to challenge it through a breach of human rights/discrimination angle, that's the whole issue unfortunately.
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      · 6 hours ago
      @SLB It would be worse in London what with the prices.
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      · 6 hours ago
      @SLB No it’s ok. It’s awful where Ever anybody lives If they are in poverty. I was thinking how there is meant to be a disparity between the south and north and that there is more poverty in the north so this is going to make it even worse. 
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Anniesmum That's not a knock against you for posting the article, by the way.   :)
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      · 18 hours ago
      @Anniesmum You have to wonder what's happened to journalism in this country.  As if Guardian readers losing thousands of pounds a year care whether there are more such people in the north or the south.  Someone losing the money in the south is going to be just as poor as someone losing it in the north.    You have to wonder what the journalist was smoking. 
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    · 1 days ago
    Just found interesting doc online from Scottish Govt outlining how different countries approach disability benefits and how they are implemented. In broad summary:

    Denmark, the process has been devolved to local municipalities
    France, paper based assessment, in collaboration with client's GP. A document called a projet de vie is written.  This is assessed by a multi-disciplinary panel
    Norway/New Zealand - many will be aware of these countries after the last Government's proposals such as vouchers/receipts. In Norway, for example, need a letter from a GP with an evidence of additional costs.
    Sweden, similar to UK. First time claimants have a face to face interview. Reassessments are determined by the assessors.

    I know this is a very broad brush summary of how other countries operate.  I'm assuming in the USA it is up to the individual state, eg Florida on how they distribute any monies to sick/disabled people.
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      · 15 hours ago
      @Matt Poland.  GP decision of incapacity, followed by interview in front of health commision, usually 3 doctors, one cardiologist, phisio spacialist/nurologist, and some other.   So the doctors can cover as many common conditions with their specialist knowledge and asses the person problems with all the medical evidence made available to them.
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    · 1 days ago
    A few days ago l posted that my PIP paperwork had arrived and l had been downgraded on two descriptors. Having now checked again it was one descriptor and it went from 4 
    to 2. Undressing and dressing.
    Bizarre as it has been at 4 since 2018. But apparently l can magically do it again without help. Overall I get 14 in daily living with one 4 in cooking/ preparing a meal so l won’t challenge it but how weird!
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    · 1 days ago
    Don't vote reform or Tories or labour in local elections and  people who think reform will be better are wrong go look for  his speech he'll screw everyone over that isn't rich any anyone that vote reform or any of the ones said they'll be voting  for all the worse things that are waiting there's still hope these cuts won't happen people are worried but the  governments over the years failed to do cuts there is massive uproar it's growing  .
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      · 1 hours ago
      @Dave
      "Which ever party be it Green, LibDems, Tories or Reform, will do for now, it is not a General Election. But if a strong Labour council suddenly for arguments sake goes Blue, that will shock + worry Labour MPs + might wake them up to the damage Stammer is doing."

      I think it really needs to be a left wing party, and as things stand that's the Greens. The problem with Labour losing votes to the Tories or Reform - or even losing councils to them - is that the lesson Labour will draw from that is that they need to move even further right. And god knows they don't need any more encouragement to do that.
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      · 1 hours ago
      @tintack Exactly. With it just been council elections, any party will do as long it's not Labour + it gives the Labour  MPs the message that the country is not happy. By no stretch of the imagination am I suggesting vote say Torieies, becouse I don't back them. I think Tom would murder me, if I voted Tories. 
      I live in Manchester + sadly we haven't got any elections this year, but this council is Labour. I would even vote for the Stark Raving Lunatic Party so as to remove the Labour council.

      Which ever party be it Green, LibDems, Tories or Reform, will do for now, it is not a General Election. But if a strong Labour council suddenly for arguments sake goes Blue, that will shock + worry Labour MPs + might wake them up to the damage Stammer is doing. 

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      · 4 hours ago
      @Dave
      "A message needs to be given to Labour only now."

      The best way to do that as far as I can see is to vote Green. Labour are hurtling to the right as they bend over backwards to chase Reform voters. They need to see that doing so will cost them votes to their left. It doesn't even necessarily matter if the Green candidate wins or not: if Labour sees that they are losing votes to their left that sends a message that their right wing policies have electoral consequences, and not the ones they're hoping for.
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      · 19 hours ago
      @Dave Voting for anyone except Labour, reform, Tories and lib Dems should be the aim.

      The Green Party aren't morally bankrupt.
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      · 21 hours ago
      @Lill Whilst I agree the need to get rid of Labour. But with this just been council elections, not a General Election. A message needs to be given, so voting for anyone except Labour should be the aim. The idea is to get rid of this particular government. So it makes no diffrence if council goes over to Lib Dems, Tory, Reform or Greens. Or even if the council is suddenly under the raving lunatic party. A message needs to be given to Labour only now. 
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    · 1 days ago
    There they go, finally catching up with the murky entrails of the monster they've allowed to escape:

    "information on the impacts of the Pathways to Work Green Paper will be published in due course"

    "A further programme of analysis to support development of the proposals in the Green Paper will be developed and undertaken in the coming months."

    Ha, ha, priceless, analysis to support development will be developed. You mean you're going to have to sit down at last and look at it properly, you lazy chancing half wits.

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/money/dwp-pip-changes-older-people-35108747&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJy_Wa0vCMAxWiUkEAHWfkKpEQ0PADegQIAhAH&usg=AOvVaw3IrAU-OoegyQV0z6MV0WAG



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      · 18 hours ago
      @rtbcpart2
      "A further programme of analysis to support development of the proposals in the Green Paper will be developed and undertaken in the coming months."

      Or to put it another way, "we announced this cobblers without having the faintest idea how any of it will actually work". Brilliant.
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    · 1 days ago
    Talk about a drip feed, Timms:

    “In keeping with existing policy, people of State Pension Age are not routinely fully reviewed and will not be affected by the proposed changes.”

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/money/dwp-pip-changes-older-people-35108747&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi73JuZv_CMAxUGXUEAHVqnDwAQxfQBegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw33m87HscOucKoCZOprLdvZ

    There's a bit of wriggle room there, mind you - not "routinely" "fully" reviewed 🤔







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    · 1 days ago
    @Anon, where did you get the info saying the new pip assessment would use "a three-tier scoring system for descriptors: 0, 2, or 4 points, instead of the current wider scale of 0–12 across various descriptors".

    That doesn't tally with B&W's info:



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      · 21 hours ago
      @leapoffaith Ieapoffaith, please don't panic + worry + let it get to you. If you are worried why not contact the CAB?  Good luck.
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      · 1 days ago
      @robbie @Anon Yes I really need to know the answer to this.. The situation is already terrible but I have been up all night & very distressed all day trying to find out about this.. Please does Benefits & Work or anyone else know what this is about?

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