Benefits and Work and Inclusion London have obtained counsel’s advice on possible challenges to the Pathways To Work Green Paper proposals. 

The advice suggests that at this stage there appears to be no clear or obvious route for challenge or ‘silver bullet’ regarding the ‘flagship’ elements of the policy.  Instead, individuals and organisations should focus efforts on challenging elements of the Green Paper politically as much as possible.

Benefits and Work and Inclusion London asked solicitors Leigh Day to obtain advice from counsel about the potential legal challenges to the March 2025 welfare reform proposals.  Leigh Day appointed barrister Tom Royston of Garden Court North Chambers to undertake the work.

Both Leigh Day and Tom Royston have a great deal of experience in social security law and we are grateful to them for the very detailed advice they have provided.

The advice addressed the following proposals in the Green Paper:

(I) ‘Focussing PIP more on those with higher needs’: the proposal to require at least one 4 point descriptor to be met to qualify for PIP;

(II) ‘Scrap the WCA’: the proposal to amend the process by which ill and disabled people can claim income replacement benefit, and the amount of money they receive;

(III) ‘New unemployment insurance’: the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit;

(IV) ‘Delaying access to the UC health element until age 22’: not paying 18-21 PIP recipients any extra means tested element in UC.

Looking in summary at the above proposals, counsel told us that substantial challenges to central aspects of the envisaged legislation would ‘be likely to fall at various places along a spectrum from ‘hopeless’ to ‘challenging’.”

In other words, given the information currently available, the chances of preventing the proposals being made law or overturning them subsequently appear to be limited.

In relation specifically to PIP, a range of issues were considered, including - but not limited to -the decision not to consult on this measure, challenges under the Human Rights Act 1998 and challenges under the Equality Act 2010.  But the probability of any challenge succeeding in relation to the PIP 4-point rule specifically was considered to be low and heavily dependent on circumstances.

Counsel did stress, however, that there may well be successful legal challenges in the future to elements of the above proposals, but these are likely to be to “contingent aspects of the proposals which emerge along the way, rather than to the elementary principles which were clear at the start.”

In other words, if the laws are enacted, then the courts may have a major role to play in examining the way they are interpreted and implemented but not in upsetting the basic foundations, such as the PIP 4-point rule. Benefits and Work will aim to support any such challenges in any way it can.

We are not able to publish the advice at present and we should add that it applies only to the four issues listed.  The Green Paper contains many more proposals that were not covered.

In addition, we did not ask for advice on whether the current Green Paper consultation is lawful, because our initial enquiries are primarily about proposals which are not being consulted on.

We know that this news will be greeted with considerable dismay by many readers, who had hoped that the courts could prevent such clearly cruel and discriminatory proposals coming into force.

Sadly, there seems unlikely to be ‘silver bullet’ or straightforward legal answer.

Instead, by far the best hope of preventing these cuts is to persuade MPs to pledge to vote against them, as evidence grows that the Labour Party is struggling to contain a rebellion.

As one Labour MP, Neil Duncan-Jordan, who won his seat with a majority of just 18 votes but who has 5,000 constituents receiving PIP, told the Guardian  “The whole policy is wrong. It goes without saying that if these benefits cuts go through, I will be toast in this seat.”

More facts about the effects of the cuts are being uncovered with each passing week. 

Making MPs, especially those with slim majorities, aware of how dramatically the cuts will affect claimant’s lives provides the best hope that they will never come to pass.

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    · 14 hours ago
    When does the 4 points system officially start? I am baffled, reading what people have said and those having just gone through assessments , nobody is scoring 4 and in fact getting their previously 4 scores reduced,  it seems that thousands upon thousands will be getting nothing! There must have been a miracle  pick up thy beds and walk moment I missed.  I'm moving in 2 weeks to the flat downstairs from mine, mine is 1st floor and my mobility is suffering due to neuropathy,  this move has cost me an increase in the rent of £125 extra a month for a smaller flat all because it's ground floor,  I get housing benefit  I admit but high peak only allows £490 roughly a month the rest of course you have to find,  most property here in buxton is at least £700 a month. Now I'm worried that I've made a mistake and won't be able to pay my rent. What a mess! I was a lifelong labour supporter, never ever again! This is not the working class labour I was brought up with,  they are a disgrace! 
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      · 12 hours ago
      @Kayzee The  4 point change doesn't come into play until November 2026.  And presumably it will only apply to new claims as well as reassessments started after that date - but we don't have confirmation on that bit yet.   There is also no confirmation if there will be transitional protection.  And there is no confirmation if those that lose the LCRWA element of UC will be able to keep their £404 Work Allowance.  And we also know that the DWP is very good at delaying previously announced changes.  I don't see them bringing this forward, as it would be mayhem, but there are possibilities that it will be pushed back, just as UC was.  
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      · 12 hours ago
      @Kayzee I am really sorry for the worry and stress you are going through Kay, I am in the same boat and try not to overthink it but it is impossible when the Office for budget resposibility says it will be 800,000 who lose PIP but other sources say it will be 1.3million. It won't just be PIP either as if you have a partner who is a carer they will lose their carers allowance and if you claim Universal credit you will lose the LCWRA and also carers element if people lose all of these things it adds up to a staggering £14,900 per year.

      I am very worried. I am due for reassement in 2028 and did score 1 4 point previously and a 3 and a 3 2's but if they have been directed to mark people down if they can, then they will do so. I have never had to go to tribunal before but if they try and take my PIP away I will fight it every step of the way as hard as I can. I have 2 autoimmune conditions as well as 2 bowel and kidney conditions, I have a permanent catheter due to nerve damage and I am only in my 40's. I worked as a nurse previously and paid in since I was 16 years old and welfare is meant to be there to support people in genuine need. 

      I have never voted Labour as I don't trust them since Blair and I just get bad vibes from Starmer. The two Labour governments so far in my lifetime have not been for the working class they are champagne socialists and as you say a disgrace to what Labour has always stood for to champion the vulnerable and help people.
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      · 13 hours ago
      @Gingin I would never vote for a far right racist party.
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      · 13 hours ago
      @Gingin Farage is another Trump type character only interested in money and power
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    · 17 hours ago
    I got a response back from Lambeath palace. I will post it here.
    Thank you for being in touch to share your concerns. The Archbishop of York, the Bishop of Leicester, and the Reverend Canon Alice Kemp from the Disability Task Group issued a response on March 19th to the Government's welfare reform announcements: Response to Welfare Reform announcements | The Church of England



    A number of bishops have also spoken about this in the House of Lords over the past few months, and the Bishop of Leicester has written for publication and spoken on national news about this important issue.
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    · 18 hours ago
    We have still got 18 months before any of these changes can come into affect and then their will be changes and watering down possibly.
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      · 12 hours ago
      @Anniesmum That's not a knock against you for posting the article, by the way.   :)
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      · 12 hours ago
      @Anniesmum You have to wonder what's happened to journalism in this country.  As if Guardian readers losing thousands of pounds a year care whether there are more such people in the north or the south.  Someone losing the money in the south is going to be just as poor as someone losing it in the north.    You have to wonder what the journalist was smoking. 
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    · 18 hours ago
    Just found interesting doc online from Scottish Govt outlining how different countries approach disability benefits and how they are implemented. In broad summary:

    Denmark, the process has been devolved to local municipalities
    France, paper based assessment, in collaboration with client's GP. A document called a projet de vie is written.  This is assessed by a multi-disciplinary panel
    Norway/New Zealand - many will be aware of these countries after the last Government's proposals such as vouchers/receipts. In Norway, for example, need a letter from a GP with an evidence of additional costs.
    Sweden, similar to UK. First time claimants have a face to face interview. Reassessments are determined by the assessors.

    I know this is a very broad brush summary of how other countries operate.  I'm assuming in the USA it is up to the individual state, eg Florida on how they distribute any monies to sick/disabled people.
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      · 9 hours ago
      @Matt Poland.  GP decision of incapacity, followed by interview in front of health commision, usually 3 doctors, one cardiologist, phisio spacialist/nurologist, and some other.   So the doctors can cover as many common conditions with their specialist knowledge and asses the person problems with all the medical evidence made available to them.
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    · 19 hours ago
    A few days ago l posted that my PIP paperwork had arrived and l had been downgraded on two descriptors. Having now checked again it was one descriptor and it went from 4 
    to 2. Undressing and dressing.
    Bizarre as it has been at 4 since 2018. But apparently l can magically do it again without help. Overall I get 14 in daily living with one 4 in cooking/ preparing a meal so l won’t challenge it but how weird!
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    · 19 hours ago
    Don't vote reform or Tories or labour in local elections and  people who think reform will be better are wrong go look for  his speech he'll screw everyone over that isn't rich any anyone that vote reform or any of the ones said they'll be voting  for all the worse things that are waiting there's still hope these cuts won't happen people are worried but the  governments over the years failed to do cuts there is massive uproar it's growing  .
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      · 13 hours ago
      @Dave Voting for anyone except Labour, reform, Tories and lib Dems should be the aim.

      The Green Party aren't morally bankrupt.
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      · 15 hours ago
      @Lill Whilst I agree the need to get rid of Labour. But with this just been council elections, not a General Election. A message needs to be given, so voting for anyone except Labour should be the aim. The idea is to get rid of this particular government. So it makes no diffrence if council goes over to Lib Dems, Tory, Reform or Greens. Or even if the council is suddenly under the raving lunatic party. A message needs to be given to Labour only now. 
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    · 19 hours ago
    There they go, finally catching up with the murky entrails of the monster they've allowed to escape:

    "information on the impacts of the Pathways to Work Green Paper will be published in due course"

    "A further programme of analysis to support development of the proposals in the Green Paper will be developed and undertaken in the coming months."

    Ha, ha, priceless, analysis to support development will be developed. You mean you're going to have to sit down at last and look at it properly, you lazy chancing half wits.

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/money/dwp-pip-changes-older-people-35108747&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiJy_Wa0vCMAxWiUkEAHWfkKpEQ0PADegQIAhAH&usg=AOvVaw3IrAU-OoegyQV0z6MV0WAG



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      · 12 hours ago
      @rtbcpart2
      "A further programme of analysis to support development of the proposals in the Green Paper will be developed and undertaken in the coming months."

      Or to put it another way, "we announced this cobblers without having the faintest idea how any of it will actually work". Brilliant.
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    · 21 hours ago
    Talk about a drip feed, Timms:

    “In keeping with existing policy, people of State Pension Age are not routinely fully reviewed and will not be affected by the proposed changes.”

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/money/dwp-pip-changes-older-people-35108747&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi73JuZv_CMAxUGXUEAHVqnDwAQxfQBegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw33m87HscOucKoCZOprLdvZ

    There's a bit of wriggle room there, mind you - not "routinely" "fully" reviewed 🤔







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    · 21 hours ago
    @Anon, where did you get the info saying the new pip assessment would use "a three-tier scoring system for descriptors: 0, 2, or 4 points, instead of the current wider scale of 0–12 across various descriptors".

    That doesn't tally with B&W's info:



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      · 15 hours ago
      @leapoffaith Ieapoffaith, please don't panic + worry + let it get to you. If you are worried why not contact the CAB?  Good luck.
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      · 18 hours ago
      @robbie @Anon Yes I really need to know the answer to this.. The situation is already terrible but I have been up all night & very distressed all day trying to find out about this.. Please does Benefits & Work or anyone else know what this is about?
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    · 22 hours ago
    We don't need a silver bullet. We have plenty of other ordnance. We need to keep on with the opposition we're mounting, raising awareness among the public and mps.

    Too few understand these proposals because they switch off when they hear anything about welfare. When they get what's happening they'll see how everyone could be affected, because some of us are young, we are mostly ordinary, and anyone might grow sick and old.

    Even if the government were to win some legal challenges, the publicity would be damaging, and they might not win them all.
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    · 22 hours ago
    Blasted thing didn't print in full

    @Anon, your post below about the proposed new pip assessment, if correct, would make a lot more sense (not justification!!) of the government's thinking, since it seems it would not just be a matter of trying to upgrade our existing points 

    If you can, would you kindly answer these questions?

    1) What is your source?
    2) Do you know which activities will be assessed?
    3) Do you know whether the assessment for each activity includes the opportunity to score 4 points?
    4) Do you think that the facts that those over state pension age, who, by definition, could not work, would have no support into work, could not add to their income by working (because there is no work allowance after state pension age), or in other ways (because other income is deducted from means tested benefits which pensioners can claim) and therefore could never mitigate their losses, mean that they would qualify as a specific group discriminated against?
    5) Would the disabled not count as a sufficiently specific group as a whole to be considered as having been discriminated against?
    6) Might there be a legal challenge to the redefinition of a group of the disabled who were previously awarded standard daily living as suddenly able simply because the government says so, and not because that group has gained good health? 




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    · 23 hours ago
    @Anon, re your long post below about the proposed new pip assessment, which, if correct, would make a lot more sense (not justification!!) of the government's thinking, since it seems it would not just be a matter of trying to upgrade our existing points, could you answer these questions?

    1) What is your source? 
    2) Do you know which activities will be assessed?
    3) Do you know whether the assessment for each activitiey
    could never mitigate their losses, mean that they would qualify as a specific group discriminated against?


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    · 23 hours ago
    Whilst I hear what you say about lobbying local MPs, mine (a Labour MP) does not bother to reply if the issue I write to her about runs contra to party policy. No idea how to get around this.
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    · 1 days ago
    I’m really confused.  I currently get ESA support group and PIP.  I don’t have 4 points on PIP.  Under the changes will I lose both PIP and ESA?
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      · 12 hours ago
      @Anony "Attend weekly interviews at a job centre and keep trying to get job interviews" is no long sufficient to get the "standard universal credit", which is Jobseekers' Allowance, as it has lately been made time limited benefit and many Jobseekers' Allowance claimants are sanctioned before they even get their first payment.

      Keir Starmer and his clowns are self-centric evil.
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      · 12 hours ago
      @Coliin
      "All health elements of uc will be removed if you do not get daily living, that's the facts"
       
      It is not yet at all clear if or how the LCWRA changes will affect existing claimants. The elements of the green paper I referred to certainly suggest that if you have a WCA prior to 2028 and still have LCWRA following that reassessment then your LCWRA will not change at all. At the very least it can certainly be interpreted that way and until the government gives us some clarity on this point we simply do not know one way or the other.
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      · 13 hours ago
      @Ernie Ok didnt know that.
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      · 13 hours ago
      @tintack All health elements of uc will be removed if you do not get daily living, that's the facts
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      · 13 hours ago
      @Anony Yes but make sure you get pip mobility

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