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Lord Freud commented during the Grand Commitee Meeting, Thursday. 10 November 2011:
The point that the noble Baroness, Lady Sherlock, makes is an incredibly complicated and central one because people'​s way of thinking about themselves is shaped by many things, not least by the expectations that others and the state have on them. We are trying to develop a really complicated socio-psychological set of impacts with the system. There is not an easy answer. We are trying to make people want to work because that is the expectation and that is the norm. That is what we are trying to achieve with our reforms.