The DWP has suggested replacing PIP with a catalogue or a shop in the Green Paper on personal independence payment (PIP) reform published yesterday. The department also asks people to choose whether it is more important that disabled people have money for food or money for medication. 

Modernising Support for Independent Living: The Health and Disability Green Paper was published yesterday and is accompanied by an online consultation survey which the DWP say they want as many disabled people and other interested parties as possible to complete (see links at the end of this article).

Different type of assessment

In the first section of the consultation, readers are asked for their view on whether some claimants with medical evidence of specific health conditions should get PIP without any assessment at all.

Your opinion is also requested on whether only claimants with “evidence or a formal diagnosis by a medical expert” should be awarded PIP.

You are then asked to explain how to prevent the requirement for a formal diagnosis from a medical expert having an impact on the NHS - because it will undoubtedly mean a great deal more demands on consultants’ time.

Changes to eligibility

In the second section the DWP want to know whether the need for aids and appliances and for prompting should score PIP points.

They also question whether someone who get a lot of low scoring descriptors should be eligible for PIP at all.

And whether any PIP activities should be removed or any new ones added.

Finally, you are asked whether the current three month qualifying period and nine month forward test should be changed.

Meeting extra costs of disability

The consultation explains that PIP contributes towards the extra costs of disability.  It asks people which are the most important needs that should addressed – suggesting that not all of them can be. 

Respondents are asked to rank in importance from 1 to 10, such items as:

  • Medications and medical products
  • Additional food costs
  • Additional energy and utility costs
  • Additional housing costs

So, people really are being asked to decide if it is more important that disabled people get their medication, eat properly or heat their homes.

The same section asks people to list the benefits and disadvantages of moving to a new system for PIP claimants, which could be:

  • A catalogue/shop scheme
  • A voucher scheme
  • A receipt based system
  • One-off grants

The consultation then goes on to ask if there are people who, instead of cash, would benefit more from improved access to support or treatment, for example:

  • respite care,
  • mental health provision
  • physiotherapy

This does raise the question as to whether benefits claimants would get different/better/faster access to things like NHS counselling and physiotherapy?  Or whether they will be pushed onto short courses provided by private sector contractors hired by the DWP?

Passing PIP costs on to the NHS and local authorities

The final section asks some very bizarre questions about NHS and local authority provision, which most people would imagine the government would be better able to answer than the average member of the public.  For example:

“Which of the following do local authorities or the NHS help with?”

  • Equipment and aids
  • Medical products
  • Personal assistance (eg. help with household tasks)
  • Health services
  • Social care

The purpose of the questions, however, is clearly to sound out how much support there would be for pushing much of the cost of PIP onto the already desperately overstretched NHS and local councils.

What this Green Paper is really about

Modernising Support for Independent Living: The Health and Disability Green Paper is supposed to be a Green Paper setting out serious, carefully considered proposals for reform of PIP.

Instead it is a ragbag of random, cruel and foolish ideas thrown together by the DWP to serve the political needs of the Conservative Party, without any likelihood of any of them being acted upon. 

The Green Paper is simply intended to make the current administration look tough on claimants whilst goading the opposition into speaking out against it, thereby supposedly making them look soft on welfare.

The fact that it is causing enormous distress to many disabled claimants and their carers, as is clear from the comments sections on this site and elsewhere, is of no concern to the DWP or the Conservative Party.

At Benefits and Work, we don’t believe that this Green Paper will ever form the basis of new legislation.

However, we do think it is important that readers who feel able to, do take part in the consultation. 

It’s important that whoever forms the next government understands the strength of feeling against dismantling the disability benefits system and instead concentrates on dismantling the department that was cruel enough to publish these proposals.

Take part in the consultation

If you are unsure whether to take part in the consultation, now that an election has been announced, please read PIP changes and UC migration – how will the election affect them?

You can download Modernising Support for Independent Living: The Health and Disability Green Paper

You can take part in the online consultation, which closes on 22 July 2024.  You are not asked to give your name or any other personal details.

Or you can email your response to:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Please post a comment below if you take part in the consultation, to encourage others to do the same.

Blank consultation form for you to fill in

Many people have told us that they have found it difficult or impossible to complete the consultation because you cannot save the form and come back to it later.  So we have published a text version of the form, with spaces for you to type in your answers.  You can take as long as you like to do this and save it as often as you need. 

When you have answered all the questions you can either email the document to the consultation email address or, if you prefer to stay anonymous, copy and paste your answers into the online form instead.

Download blank form

Our submission

A number of people have asked how we are responding to the consultation.  We have published a copy of our answers to the consultation which you can download if you wish.  We wouldn’t advise you to copy them, but they may help you decide how you want to answer. 

We have tried to keep our answers brief as we don’t believe people should feel they have to write hugely detailed responses to what is, in our view a bad faith consultation.

Complaint about Question 18

We are particularly disgusted by Q18 and have sent a formal complaint to the consultation email address.  We would encourage other people to complain if they are unhappy about this question. 

Our complaint is worded as follows: 


 We wish to make a formal complaint about question 18 in the consultation related to “Modernising Support for Independent Living: The Health and Disability Green Paper”

The question asks:

“Which extra costs incurred by disabled people are the most important for a new scheme to address? Please rank the following options in your order of importance:”

Respondents are then required to rank 10 extra costs in order of importance. 

If a respondent doesn’t wish to answer the question, the options will remain in their default order and that will be recorded as the respondent’s choices, even though that is absolutely not the case.

For many people, ourselves included, the entire premise of the question is inappropriate:  asking people to decide whether, for example, medication, a specialised diet or energy to power medical equipment and provide additional warmth is more important.  They are all vital to life and all of equal importance.

Even if people wished to choose, their ranking might vary at different times of the year or different stages in their condition. 

In addition, even if respondents feel able to rank these items for themselves, how can they possibly make that choice on behalf of other disabled people with hugely different needs?  Yet that is what the question requires.

We consider that this question should either be removed from the consultation or, at the very least, that there should be an option to decline to answer or to rank all options equally.

As it stands, this question is clearly rigged and has no place in a genuine consultation.


24.05.24 Please note:  we have now had a response to our complaint as follows:

"We would like to clarify that if a respondent chooses not to answer question 18, no response is recorded for that respondent. The default order of the options will not be counted as a response if the question is left unanswered.

"Furthermore, if respondents wish to provide additional details regarding question 18, including if they feel that all options should be ranked equally, they are encouraged to highlight this in question 19. Question 19 is designed to allow respondents to elaborate on their views directly related to question 18."

We are a little dubious about this response, because if a respondent agreed with the DWP's chosen order and so did nothing, they would apparently be recorded as having not answered the question.  And the DWP's response does not alter the fact that this is an extraordinarily inappropriate question in the first place.

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    · 6 months ago
    Again if you've been keeping tabs, the Telegraph and the Daily Mail for nearly a year have been demonizing those who are either mentally or and physically ill who claim out of work benefits. I'm completely sick and tired of the demonizing, the hate filled verbiage directed at those who legitimately cannot work. Then low and behold the Tories use the propaganda created as policy to throw meat to those Union Jack waving "I'm alright Jack" types who long for the 1980s to return.

    These same Union Jack waving "I'm alright jack" types moan about immigration, they say "we should look after our own" and when it comes to looking after our own they call them scroungers, they are hypocrites.

    I have NOTHING but animosity towards these faceless cowards who say to themselves metaphorically speaking "why kick a Lion when I could kick a cat?" In other words pick on the weak because it's easy to but what happens when the cat becomes a lion? 

    A Society is judged on how it treats it's poor, it's vulnerable and it's elderly....that comment should should be something supported by everyone no matter political or personal beliefs.
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    · 6 months ago
    The sheer arrogance of Sunak and the Tories is what I expected; despite being rejected in the local elections, they refuse to listen to the British people and to follow their own elitist and punitive (benefits) agenda; they know best for everyone.

    We must all be determined and fight on come what may from them for the next few months, until Labour take over.

    Anything is better than this motley crue of right wingers.


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    · 6 months ago
    Just wondering if people already on UC LCWRA & PIP standard mobility, will receive the new uc health element still?
    Or will everyone need to be assessed on a new pip assessment?
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    · 6 months ago
    It’s just another way for them to hand big contracts to their mates to provide the items that WE would have to buy from so said catalogue with these vouchers. That way the rich get richer just like they did with COVID. 
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    · 6 months ago
    I am planning on replying to this consultation in the next few days, I'm just fed up of the bullying and the blame game that disabled people have to put up with where the Benefits system is concerned, just because the Tories have got things financially cocked up it always seems to be the sick and disabled fault, I knew something like this would happen after the Government Cost of Living payments were made they are now trying to claw those payments back in the most callous way possible   I have also contacted my local Labour MP about these god dam awful proposed changes to PIP and what her party intend to do if they get elected at the next General Election so far the silence from her is deafening (no insult to deaf people) but I only sent the email about a week ago, so I will give her a couple of more weeks to respond properly, and will post them on here, so we can get an idea of which way Labour may go concerning PIP, I just have a horrible gut feeling it's just going to be more of the same vitriol from Labour as it was with the Tories, but we will see.
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    · 6 months ago
    Have to treat it as another health condition - 'DWP'itus' Symptoms triggered by tabloid media headlines, brown envelopes, incomprehensible forms and questionnaires, medical interviews, including pre and post assessment anxiety disorder!

    Suggestions for treatment....much self compassion, plenty of diversions and if possible campaigning towards change.
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    · 6 months ago
    The Tory's DWP are being trained in the Annie Wilkes school of compassion! (main character in film Misery played by Kathy Bates). Just as you think you may be able to manage your wretched health conditions ....hobbled again by this draconian system!

    Let's hope Labour get in and have more compassion!
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    · 6 months ago
    This is absolutely outrageous there are going to be so many suicide or is that what he wants  ?  He should live a life of disabled people and see how it actually affects people 
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    · 6 months ago
    Would this be the end of Motability scheme as well.
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    · 6 months ago
    Whats wrong with these idiots? Asking us the claimants to do their job for them, asking for our help and ideas because they don't have any of their own. Its like asking soneone to build their own gallows. Also, if they want to give people with mild mh treatment instead of cash why cant they give them treatment now. It should be part of nhs free services no one should have to pay. As for choosing between meds and food etc... Shouldn't have to choose ESA or UC should pay enough to cover basics. 
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      · 6 months ago
      @Kitty After seeing the questions they have no intelligence, empathy or know how ordinary everyday people live. They want to give food vouchers, what about our freedom to choose if we want to buy a cream cake or chocolate to have some joy in life.
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      · 6 months ago
      @Kitty Yes, you shouldn't have to be entitled to disability benefit to access NHS treatment. That should be standard. I know PIP claimants who only applied because it was the only way they could get treatment - by going private using the PIP money. 

      Now tories have come up with the bright idea that if you're ill you should get treatment, duh. Ain't that what we"ve paid for via NI? And how is cutting NI contributions going to help any but the already well off? PIP should be for extra costs associated with ill health, not basic subsistence or medical care available free to everyone at the point of use.

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      · 6 months ago
      @Kitty Totally agree 
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      · 6 months ago
      @reasonstobecheerful @reasonstobecheerful  Definitely not great news for them. Just exposes them once again as the villians they are and what we are up against.  Anyone who thinks otherwise or who agrees with them has never been on the receiving end of their wrath.
      Will this do any good? Probably not, but at least it's out their now and we can use it.
      If we were to do half the things they do we'd be dragged over the coals for it.

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      · 6 months ago
      @The dogmother. @The dogmother. Nice! Whichever way you look at it, it's not great news for the government. Either they broke the rules accidentally, or they meant to sneak in some proposals which might, illegitimately, "have a bearing on the election [campaign]”.

      Wonder how that went for them....
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    · 6 months ago
    I have schizophrenia and chronic gut issues due to side effects of medication for schizophrenia. I am not a homicidal maniac, and have taken meds for over 20yrs to stay out of psychiatric units and try to stay relatively sane. I pay for medication out of PIP, glasses, dental treatment as I recieve no other benefit due to my partner working. I also pay for taxis to medical appts, when needed. PIP is the only source of financial independence I have atm. Due to the naure of illness', I am very unreliable. The workplace requires reliablity. I am able to choose what I spend PIP on, atm. Freedom of choice is surely a human right. I gather the human rights bill is being ammended also.
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    · 6 months ago
    I for one will not be able to live with out this payment after my strokes as it helps financially aswell as physically and mentally so with out it I will not have the will to live and stress and worry could bring on another stroke they just don't care.
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    · 6 months ago
    It's fair enough for Martin Lewis to point out how unworkable and remote these welfare reforms are. If we allow ourselves to be scared to death the government's work will be done without them even having to pass these proposals.
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    · 6 months ago
    From what I have read, people need pip for transitional migration onto the new uc health element, why hasn't this been talked about?
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      · 6 months ago
      @Anon Anon well that's me screwed then as I lost daily living component of PIP in 2019 and only get enhanced mobility, so I will be finished.  I have written a stinging response to the green paper consultation, but frankly they clearly would prefer it if we were dead, and so would I.
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      · 6 months ago
      @Anon It’s means testing by the back door!
       If they do away with pip payments and add a disability component to universal credit, many people with disabilities will have to rely on partners & family members to pick up their additional costs! 
      Remember Tony Blair’s government looked at means testing & the Tory government banded ‘means testing’ about last year!
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      · 6 months ago
      @Sam I made a comment on this a couple of days ago. It has been suggested by the government that in order to qualify for LCWRA you will need to be in receipt of the daily living component of pip. If pip is more difficult to get or removed , then claimants could also lose the health element of UC.
      It's about saving money, nothing more. The talk of ork being good for health and wellbeing is just smoke and mirrors 
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      · 6 months ago
      @Sam Exactly. Because the government has just spewed out a whole load of disjointed fantasies it can't possibly implement..
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      · 6 months ago
      @andrea Indeed @andrea, though it is mainly the press fuelling the panic and adding to the confusion. 
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      · 6 months ago
      @notsoeasy When the headline said "forget it" I thought he was addressing the government, unfortunately he meant us, "just forget about it" Well, that would be nice wouldn't it? It's hard to forget when someone comes along and threatens to ruin you...
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      · 6 months ago
      @notsoeasy This man makes sense. More sense than some people on here, who are fear mongering.  I understand that it is scary but we must try not to make statements like that as severe depression/anxiety can lead to very dangerous impulses! 
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    · 6 months ago
    Labour wants to reduce the welfare bill and "get everyone who can work into work" (in their opinion that means everyone on ESA/UC). 

    We are destined to be hauled into work at some juncture as it's getting tougher and rougher whoever is in power as the goal seems to be the elimination of the welfare state. 
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      · 6 months ago
      @Carol K My comment below was supposed to say "that does not mean they want everyone who is incapacitated into work." (There does not seem to be an editing button on these comments.)
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    · 6 months ago
    I was talking to a very worried man today. His wife has used her PIP to pay to get her bathroom adapted. She still has some of her 10 yr award remaining, maybe 7 yrs but has a loan for the adaptations which still has over 4 years to pay. They are v worried the existing years will be removed or transformed to vouchers and they will be unable to finish the payments. These proposals do not seem to cater to commitments already made.
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      · 6 months ago
      @Dave All pip claims can be reviewed at anytime. They have started randomly auditing a small percentage of claims irrespective of how long the award is. They always did this but it stopped due to covid.
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    · 6 months ago
    I have now 18 years the disabilities chronic asthma, oestopennia, under active thyroid gland this cause constipation, walking with aids and adaptations cannot clean flat stand for long and need taxi to go gp apps, hospital apps shopping need taxis and pay cleaning plus do not get full rent it is 2 bedroom flats under occupied need 1 bedroom waiting for offer os flat
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    · 6 months ago
    Thanks to the Conservative government for making me and others like me feel lower than a snakes belly.
    Hope you are happy with your accomplishment.
    It's worthless we aren't. But you've made one heck of a dent in making us feel it. !
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      · 6 months ago
      @The Dog Mother Remember Tony Blair government looked into means testing disability allowance! 
      Labour haven’t said that they won’t follow through with this proposed action. They did with the triple lock.
      They’re two sides of the same coin!
      Means testing by the back door!

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