The consultation on plans to replace personal independence payment (PIP) with vouchers or a catalogue ends on 22 July, with Labour so far showing no signs of disowning the proposals.  Benefits and Work is urging readers to have their say before it is too late.

As most readers will be aware, the Conservatives published a Green Paper on the future of PIP in April 2024.  Amongst the proposals were suggestions that instead of regular cash payments, PIP could be replaced with:

  • A catalogue/shop scheme
  • A voucher scheme
  • A receipt based system
  • One-off grants

Labour failed to condemn these proposals in the run-up to the general election and have continued to remain silent since gaining power, even though there is now no risk of them losing votes by speaking out.

According to the Mirror:

“Labour insiders have hinted they'll review the public's response to these proposals after the consultation wraps up on July 22, which falls three weeks post-election.”

Labour have also said nothing about planned changes to the work capability assessment (WCA) from 2025, that would lead to an estimated 424,000 claimants losing over £400 a month.

Ten leading charities, including:

  • Child Poverty Action Group
  • Disability Rights UK
  • Joseph Rowntree Foundation
  • Mind
  • Save the Children

have written to Liz Kendall, secretary of state for work and pensions.  They have asked her to halt the proposed changes to the WCA and to PIP and replace them with plans that are “redesigned with disabled people at the centre.”

So far, there has been no response.

You can find out more about the changes to PIP and how to take part in the consultation here.

UPDATE 11 July

Liz Kendall made a speech in Leeds today in which she said that rising levels of economic inactivity are unacceptable and that immediate action must be taken.  She highlighted the fact that a record 2.8 million people are out of work due to long-term sickness. 

Kendall said that the government would: ".... create more good jobs, make work pay, transform skills, and overhaul jobcentres, alongside action to tackle the root causes of worklessness including poor physical and mental health."

Kendall made no reference to PIP or work capability assessment changes and did not address the issue of the speeded-up timetable for forced migration to universal credit.

More details here.

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    · 4 months ago
    What is going on why not ask disabled people what they think  for a change some idiot in the dap with nothing better to do 
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      · 4 months ago
      @George You're asked to fill in the consultation form and express your views and concerns.
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    · 4 months ago
    This is so wrong on many levels . Each person has a different situation with different needs and introducing voucher system is going to cause more mental health issue as anxiety, panic and worry will go through the roof and I think there'll be a rise in suicides. Vouchers and a catalogue is NOT in the best interests of the sick and disabled. It's takes away freedom to choose what to spend the money on... You can't pay people who help you by giving them vouchers. It's just seem the government always attack the most vulnerable in society 
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    · 4 months ago
    I'm on pip with advanced arthritis in my knees spine. Feet. Ankle and hips.  I recently had a knee replacement  and in recovery.  I have crutches. And toilet frames    I'm in rented property which means I cannot do any adaptation s to my home. Therefore vouchers will be no use to me.  I understand that there are people out there that are playing the system and there's probably nothing wrong with and now this has made it bad for us people who genuinely need the money for our disabilities .
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      · 4 months ago
      @Shelly The DWPs own figures state that the amount of fraud for PIP is so low that they’ve said it’s zero!
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      · 4 months ago
      @Shelly Thats Ok, their have a very special job for you. Joking aside, this is what lunatics we have trying to impose idealistic way's of thinking upon us. 'ALL WORK IS GOOD FOR YOU.' Really!! There are many academic papers that state the complete opposite and very strange how the media never refer from them when interviewing politician's. 
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    · 4 months ago
    All this is going to do is create a black market where we have to trade our vouchers for less than they're worth so we can spend the money on things we actually need. Won't be long before eBay creates a "dwp vouchers" category...

    My dog is my main expense, but without her I lose my de facto carer. I would never get up, never get dressed, never go out the house in the daytime, never see another human being. Never give or receive love. She also regulates my emotions in a really complex yet simple way that I don't understand exactly but it has been witnessed and noted by my therapist. I wouldn't last long without her. This week I had to pay the vet £50 and I spent £20 at Pets at Home, they going to give me vouchers for that are they?! What happens when I meet the "you shouldn't have pets if you can't afford them" lobby? I'm eligible for a blue badge but I won't have one because I couldn't cope with being challenged for having a hidden disability so if there's no parking near somewhere then I just go home. That's manageable at least, trying to stay alive and sane without my dog is not.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Bh Mine goes on my dog too the rest is for food and bills . I am concerned about this because vouchers used for therapy and aids that you should get on the nhs
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      · 4 months ago
      @Bh Bang on it wall create a black market for Pip vouchers stupid idea there’s a black market for any other voucher as easy as that I can’t hardly walk I’m on Pip got every rail in my house fallen down four times no start stair rail that’s what you get for putting lunatics in power we will have to sell the vouchers for half the money to get what we need
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      · 4 months ago
      @Bh @BH, no dogs.  I'm gone.simple as that. No ifs or but's. No reason to go on.  Some won't understand that.
      But it is what it is. 
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    · 4 months ago
    Well I thought pip was money to buy your disabled facilities with well that's what I did ive brought a mobility wheelchair a special bed other special equipment to help me in and around the house.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Marie If you think it’s for disabled facilities what about other disabled people who need interpreters or care assistants on a regular basis and if it’s just for disabled facilities then what happens when you purchased what you need- does PIP payment be stopped?
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      · 4 months ago
      @Anon Well let's hope they still feel the same now they are in Government and the ones with our future in their hands.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Fred That's the point. When it comes to money our economy isn't on it's knees, it's flat on its face. How could they afford this lunacy, with the cost of the administration it would be astronomical!  

      Who are they to tell us how to spend our PIP, doubtless on things that will be cheap for them and unsuitable for us. We are the experts in our own conditions and know exactly what we need and what to prioritise for ourselves. Sadly, we also have to subside our below breadline income level of Universal credit and overly expensive rents with little help with the housing element in a cost of living crisis. 

      Benefits and Work have said that they doubt that this will happen, I do hope they are right. I wouldn't put it beyond any government to agree to a hair brained scheme like this though. A sledgehammer to crack a very small nut with dreadful consequences for us all. It's beyond shameful, why can't they leave us disabled people in peace. We've got more than enough to cope with,as it is. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Anon I’m sure in one of the debates Rishi was talking about the changes the Tories want to make to PIP, vouchers etc, and he said, Labour opposed them all. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Old Mother But the Tories didn't implement it. If it happens now it will be because Labour gave it the go ahead.
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    · 4 months ago
    It will never happen, calm down people. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Seb I hope not I'm quite concerned to be honest 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Seb Exactly.

      It'll cost much more and is already getting a backlash from charities and organisations and pressure is on Kendall to forget it before even considering it.

      When they review the consultation they will see  from the responses that it would be a bad idea not to bin it all.

      They also know just like what just happened with the Tories they will get punished too next time if they go there.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Seb Here's hoping. If not, going to turn people's lives into a further living hell. These vouchers will all have to work on line, and perfectly. Many can't even get to a shop for various reasons. Love to see how those reliant upon buses and Taxis will get on. Shouldn't take long to sort. Yawnnnn.
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    · 4 months ago
    WTF are we supposed to do with a voucher and for what?  Most of us need this payment to help with everyday bills because we are not able to work and you can't feed yourself and keep a roof over your head with UC. It's disgraceful when we treat our disabled like criminals and put the criminals up in 4* hotels. 
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    · 4 months ago
    Disgusting ,I'm with you how do you pay bills with voucher 
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    · 4 months ago
    People who are genuinely ill ,sick & disabled ,shouldn't be made to feel like they are worthless & a stain on society .
    The high levels of stress they are causing us ,with the silence & uncertainty is inhumane .
    We don't choose to be ill & cant function like normal healthy people .
    Every day presents challenges to get through, with pain, discomfort, emotional states of Anxiety stress & depression always with us & don't go away. .
    We don't have days where we can turn around & say wow that was a great day & loved it so much .
    Everyday is about survival , discomfort & fear .
    These pip ideas & legacy migration to Uc( without being automatically processed are a disgrace) .Also some who will be forced to look for work, are not going to make  them feel better about themselves ,esp if your riddled with pain , discomfort & cannot function well enough mentally  .
    We should be allowed to live with dignity instead of made to feel like  sponger, criminals .
    Shame on the lot of them .
    What an horrible  Country ,world we live in .
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      · 4 months ago
      @Vic I agree let’s all focus that this is all hot air and it probably will not happen it’s all politics gone poison directly to vulnerable society.
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    · 4 months ago
    Another thought, if you look at the entire proposals, the vouchers are not the worst part of it, they actually a distraction which seems to be working.
    The proposals if enacted, would likely disqualify more than half of all PIP claimants, and I think the voucher stuff is a cover for it which is being successful at distracting people.
    They propose to remove all prompt and 'aids' descriptors, they propose to require 8/12 points be scored in a single descriptor instead of combined, they propose to merge similar descriptors, and they propose a confirmed diagnosis requirement from second line care (not GP).
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      · 4 months ago
      @CC Probably correct: the Institute for Fiscal Studies has suggested that reform would centre, initially, on eligibility for new claimants and those whose awards are up for renewal. Once that had been embedded then all other PIP claimants will be reassessed. At least as I am VI (and partially deaf) my certificate of visual impairment was signed by a Consultant Ophthalmologist. And the criteria for registration is very strict 

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    · 4 months ago
    I tried to warn people here and elsewhere, Kendall is on a mission, and has basically ghosted anyone who has attempted to get her to explain her motives or to get answers out of her.  The Leeds event and the lack of response to charities is further evidence of that.  She has been in a political bubble most of her adult life, a career politician isolated from the real world.
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      · 4 months ago
      @CC Yes and without PIP you won't qualify for the extra health payment under UC
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    · 4 months ago
    Absulute insult dont agree with vouchers that will never work
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    · 4 months ago
    Rich people hate everyone else who is not like them. As long as the country is in power by rich out of touch government, then nothing will change. They will attack the poorest in society. 
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    · 4 months ago
    If vouchers are passed how many suicides will it take to realise they are wrong. For i suffer with fibromyalgia left ventricular dilysfunvlction and sads depression and anxiety arthrritis in my knees diabetes and had on permanent medication due to a mini stroke i had.if wasnt for pip i wouldnt be able to get to my lofe saving appointments or aford the 25 items per month perscription i have struggled to hold a job down in past and my conditions have only got worst. In my opinion the government are just trying to kill people by pushing them to suicide 
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    · 4 months ago
    I feel that Rishi Sunak blatantly sped up the process for the forced migration of disabled people and pensioners,when it was said there would be a pause while they looked into several details,for example,the fact that as disabled we will be a lot worse off on universal credit as there is nothing in place to replace our sisability premiums and severe disability premiums.Also on the subject of the idea to replace our p.i.p with vouchers etc.o feel that this will cause disadvantages to many of us in the aspect that,1...the vouchers won't cover most things that we need our payment for,2...they providers of the goods that can be purchased will blatant  raise the costs of goods enabling them to make more profit and us disabled being left worse off again.Offering treatment in the place of our payments knowing full well the waiting lists for treatment are extremely long,therefore the treatment  would never be given..but most of all its the stigma that would come with having to use vouchers and being dictated where and what we buy...so basically enabling us to be targeted at even more than we already are.I,for one ,never chose to have these cruel painful and disabling conditions,and replacing our payments for vouchers etc,as yojre suggesting,would juat make life so much more difficult for us,than it already is.Please consider us as the human beings we are,and nit just as statistics on ur computer screens. Do the right thing and leave out PIP payments in place ,at least allowing us some dignity,comfort and decency in life .Thank you
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    · 4 months ago
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      · 4 months ago
      @averil Same here . I posted on Facebook and received a warning for spreading misinformation. 

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      · 4 months ago
      @averil @averil, there's a lot of that happening on Facebook.
      But report animal cruelty videos, and they won't even remove them. 
      I mean real abuse videos. 
      But mention the state of the benefits system or fear over changes, nd they jump all over it. I've sseenmany others on there comment about it. Some of those who've had their comments  or links deleted are seasoned disability rights campaigners too and are at a loss to see why the comment went against community standards.So you def are not alone. 
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    · 4 months ago
    Also petiole with disability care can’t pay them with voucher 
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    · 4 months ago
    i cant at all understand these governments that a big mojority of people claiming pip have life long progressive conditions that means the person will get worse and worse health wise. to claim top pip rate  benefit you need to be really ill and be backed up by your gp and hospital specialist consultants so why on earth ask these vulnerable people to look for work fought the ideal of disablilty reform  was to save government money not keep getting these people to try jobs whilst completely unfit to do so which would have been proved already that they cant work due to progressive illness conditions. also about the sick who cant leave their house without another person to help  them. so many wrongs in this government already showing, lets hope their is a god with a heart for us all thank you for reading my comment
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      · 4 months ago
      @diceman24 Not entirely true this is where it gets silly. I have had my pip reduced I've asked for mandatory recommendation on it but ain't holding my breath. I have nerve damage in my leg along with arthritis COPD anxiety autism eud OCD ADHD IBS. Yet I know a guy who's just been awarded top whack pip. Yet this guy is a full time window cleaner. So no it doesn't just rely on these things. 
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    · 4 months ago
    Pip should be money as people with learning disabilities suffer already I can’t even go out on my own and my learning disability is getting wors
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    · 4 months ago
    Why do successive governments always attack the sick & disabled??? Why not go after all the healthy people that are able to work!! Why shouldnt we get an income to help us, god knows we give enough cash away to other countries!!! And people newly arriving in this country!!! Why should we be denied a better quality of life? Instead of being given vouchers what a pathetic, stupid condescending idea !!! We have already gone through hoops to prove we need the money in the 1st place !! No we are an easy vulnerable group that are continually attacked & bullied!!! So you know where u can place your vouchers!!! Look at all the rich people and big companies avoiding their tax why dont you start with the greedy!!

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