The consultation on plans to replace personal independence payment (PIP) with vouchers or a catalogue ends on 22 July, with Labour so far showing no signs of disowning the proposals.  Benefits and Work is urging readers to have their say before it is too late.

As most readers will be aware, the Conservatives published a Green Paper on the future of PIP in April 2024.  Amongst the proposals were suggestions that instead of regular cash payments, PIP could be replaced with:

  • A catalogue/shop scheme
  • A voucher scheme
  • A receipt based system
  • One-off grants

Labour failed to condemn these proposals in the run-up to the general election and have continued to remain silent since gaining power, even though there is now no risk of them losing votes by speaking out.

According to the Mirror:

“Labour insiders have hinted they'll review the public's response to these proposals after the consultation wraps up on July 22, which falls three weeks post-election.”

Labour have also said nothing about planned changes to the work capability assessment (WCA) from 2025, that would lead to an estimated 424,000 claimants losing over £400 a month.

Ten leading charities, including:

  • Child Poverty Action Group
  • Disability Rights UK
  • Joseph Rowntree Foundation
  • Mind
  • Save the Children

have written to Liz Kendall, secretary of state for work and pensions.  They have asked her to halt the proposed changes to the WCA and to PIP and replace them with plans that are “redesigned with disabled people at the centre.”

So far, there has been no response.

You can find out more about the changes to PIP and how to take part in the consultation here.

UPDATE 11 July

Liz Kendall made a speech in Leeds today in which she said that rising levels of economic inactivity are unacceptable and that immediate action must be taken.  She highlighted the fact that a record 2.8 million people are out of work due to long-term sickness. 

Kendall said that the government would: ".... create more good jobs, make work pay, transform skills, and overhaul jobcentres, alongside action to tackle the root causes of worklessness including poor physical and mental health."

Kendall made no reference to PIP or work capability assessment changes and did not address the issue of the speeded-up timetable for forced migration to universal credit.

More details here.

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    · 4 months ago
    Vouchers  idea is ridiculous and must be scraped. Keeping pip as money allows us to pay for services that make our lives a bit easier. E.g taxi, heating bills.
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    · 4 months ago
    The way the consultation is set up is ridiculous.   Pages and pages of complicated questions which if you are in severe pain are impossible to concentrate on long enough to answer coherently.   
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    · 4 months ago
    I am physically disabled and my life wouldn’t be worth living if they change cash payments with vouchers as I have to use the money which allows me  to stay in my home and pay for all the extra cost due to my disability! So many hidden cost behind someone who 
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    · 4 months ago
    How would people on pip manage to get vouchers when you are blind or visually impaired as I am. I cannot see the black and white keyboards on my phone to assess any website it may go on. And vouchers for clothes with if that person doesn't nead any more clothes  the vouchers wouldn't get used would thay. Shopping is ok because peaple need to eat. I am terribly worried if that comes out wouldn't have any idea how to go about it. 
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    · 4 months ago
    Scrap the vouchers why should we explain what we spend our money on . Why must we explain how much we pay for food and bills 
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    · 4 months ago
    Why stop pip cash we don’t want vouchers
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    · 4 months ago
    It is not a good idea, I am a sick man & I disagree with vouchers.
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    · 4 months ago
    This is absolutely one of this situations where we have to mobilise and fill out this form - if we don’t give them an overwhelming “NO” - If they think they can get away with it, they’ll do it. It’s on us. All of us. 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Will Agree. As much as it's good to express our views on here, we can hope to have some  influence if we fill out the survey. Watch out for their tricks though - don't fall for the one where they ask you to rank needs/costs in order of importance!
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    · 4 months ago
    Vouchers arre a ridiculous idea ,how can you expect us to except this idea  ,we cannot work ,we need specialist food, carers for daily living ,transport costs, special equipment to move around the list is never ending,,it's expensive being disabled 
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    · 4 months ago
    Scrap the silly old voucher and keep pip as money as how can u pay for taxi u can’t how can u pay for car repairs u can’t how can u pay for mobility cars u can’t 
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    · 4 months ago
    For everyone commenting, please be aware that in an investigation made by the DWP into fraudulent benefit claims it was found that LESS than 1% of disability benefit claims were found to be false or fraudulent. They are playing us all by telling us that scammers and fraudsters rip off the benefits system. They are lyingbwhen it comes to disability benefits, they are almost no false claims that pay out.
    They have more issues with Universal credit fraudsters, but they don't highlight that just attack, attack, attack on the vulnerable members of society.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Anon Anon  the people who want to change the system are people who have no understanding how illness affects people's lives but play the false narrative that these people are scamming a system. Anyone can play that dangerous card with people's lives.  Do you hear anything about the state benefit subsidies totalling plus  3BN that the government pays yearly to wealthy landowners and farmers, the more land you have the more state benefits you get? Interesting no political party raises this fact because people in all uk parties are claiming these state benefits?  What do you have to say about that fact? 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Louise Ok but the idea of the vouchers isn't about fraud, it's about the spiralling cost and increasing number of claims.
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    · 4 months ago
    I’ve started this form three times . Every time I get near the end it just clicks off , it doesn’t save . 
    I’m emotionally exhausted and feel defeated trying to fill this out . 
    Surely another ploy by dwp to not hear our voices , by not being able to save our answers . 
    I’m still fuming and I refused to rank the order of importance of medicines, aids, heating , food in order of importance . 
    I’m sickened by the idea that they are talking about taking away the needs support with aids question and needs prompting . 
    Because let’s face it, that wipes out most of us people with disabilities. 
    The whole form is inhumane 
    😭
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      · 4 months ago
      @Daniel Please please don’t introduce the vouchers!Am always exhausted and under mobility symptoms. How do I keep track what I use where??. This is another way to treat disable badly rather than help them become more independent and step closer to their peers in the society rather than discriminate us. This is not why I voted for you labour government. I thought you would be on the side of supporting me. Many Thanks. Pip helps my independence and am able to work as well. I don’t get pip to sit@ home.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Koosie Bless you, great idea thank you 😊 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Old Mother I love this 
      Thank you 😊 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Daniel I also refused to rank the order of importance as I felt it was a trick to exclude certain things, when these costs vary from person to person.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Daniel
      I don't think they could have made this more difficult... But it is possible to email them with your thoughts and this will contribute to the consultation.   

      This is the email address but I don't know if it will get replicated here as it hasn't been each time I've tried in the past.  If you click on the link for the green paper it is written a few pages back as an alternative way to contribute.

      consultation.modernisingsupport@DWP.GOV.UK

      Each time I have tried to copy this email address it hasn't copied properly into this forum but this is the email address.  
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    · 4 months ago
    Right wing governments including this one because that’s what it is have systematically demonised disabled people, immigrants, the poor, single mothers, elderly ladies, and many other groups of people who need support from us all. The sad thing is it has worked!! So many comments here even suggesting many disabled are swinging the lead !! The proportion of benefits fraud is around 5% I believe and yet the well off are almost 💯 finding tax evasion schemes or even tax fraud. No one cares about that - it’s not MSM headlines every day about people deliberately avoiding paying tax etc but there are headlines every day about the above groups swindling the public. We need to go back to centrist politics before the uk descends into a fascist state !!
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      · 4 months ago
      @tony evelyn I can't believe what's happening why the government new the cost of living was going up and all  it seems to me that they've handed out all this cash and now they want to take it back but in other ways they think it will save them money it will cost them a lot more in the end 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Edith The fraud rate was less than 1% and therefore counted as zero
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      · 4 months ago
      @Edith  PIP is currently at 0% for fraud !!!...of course this is overlooked by the right wing media rags and youtube channels who sole purpose it seems is to divide and conquer at the expense of the vulnerable.
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    · 4 months ago
    Wtf vouchers? I suffer really bad with pdsd depression and anxiety and social anxiety. I don't go out my house because of what is wrong with me. How am I suppose to do shopping with vouchers? This world is getting worse!! 
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    · 4 months ago
    If vouchers are considered to be a good idea the all MPs and DWP employees should lead the way.

    The whole idea is risible and seems to be something that Mel Stride plucked out of his own arse.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Old Mother How about they scrap the daily payment of £300 that MP's get for just turning up in the house of commons, sign in & then jump back in their taxi that's still running outside! 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Alchemist Absolutely. Let’s see all MPs given vouchers instead of their fat salaries. 
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    · 4 months ago
    The State opening of parliament is on Tuesday,with 30 new bills.Nowhere is this on the current agenda.It is a consultation ending next week,in practice it would never work.They will try and get people back to work and off pip that way as you will need pip to get uc health additional money.I think they will have to sort out the NHS waiting lists first.People with secondary care eg Consultant will probably be ok ,it’s all the others they will target I think.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Paul It certainly will not be happening in the next parliament ,I don’t believe it will happen just red meat thrown out by the Tories in their desperate dying days.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Claire So if it did go ahead with the changes  how soon would it happen u any idea?
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    · 4 months ago
    It's the same old story pick on the inflicted and the weak labour will be no different.  Yes there is definitely a problem with people playing the mental card  since covid and I'm sure there's some fraudsters in there but if they have been assessed by a medical professional and are found to have mental health issues I can see labour moving the goal posts on it 
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    · 4 months ago
    Hull live newspaper are today running a poll asking readers if the DwP should be allowed to monitor claimants bank accounts. So far the results are 43% in favour, 57% against.



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      · 4 months ago
      @Anon Do you want a govt to monitor your bank accounts anon?
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      · 4 months ago
      @Anon The newspaper readers who vote in favour of such monitoring -- assuming they are not bots or DWP/political staff ordered to do so -- are very stupid indeed if they don't realise that once such surveillance begins,  it will inevitably -- and soon -- be extended to include the entire population, themselves included (but not, of course, the top people and their fatcat cronies).

      If, as the truly moronic saying goes, "the innocent have nothing to fear" ...  then why do MPs not even have to submit receipts to claim their  generously self-awarded expenses ... why are the very highly salaried top apparatchiks in Whitehall allowed such anonymity ... and why is there so much official secrecy about everything?
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    · 4 months ago
    People receiving pip cannot live off one benefit alone it's a combination of all benefits that makes up a livable source of income and often on the breadline , if you replace the money with vouchers it will leave a big deficit for instance my housing benefit doesn't cover my rent and I live in one of cheapest flats , I have to rob from another benefit to pay this and bills are rising . I live alone a phone is a must that bill has to be paid for its not just health costs its wellbeing too that must be taken in to consideration 
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      · 4 months ago
      @Michelle I don't know why people are downvoting you. I've been renting this flat 10 years and my rent is relatively low for the area, yet my housing benefit has been frozen since 2019 at a rate which is now less than half my rent.  Local Housing Allowances were recently given the option to rise slightly, but my local authority has kept LHA at the old 2019 rate, due to the fact I guess that the council itself is struggling for for cash. 

      Keeping a roof over your head is part of staying as healthy as you can and out of hospital when you're on a fixed income with no option to earn money due to disability.
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      · 4 months ago
      @Michelle It is amazing how as soon as people reach the official retirement age, they are deemed to no longer need a mobility (car) allowance ....  which is very odd logic, since an ability to get around even for the most basic of necessities invariably declines with age rather than improves. 
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    · 4 months ago
    I don’t understand how this scheme will benefit any person with a disability. It won’t help in no way. I have Ibd and I’m immune compromised. I have an operation approximately every 3-5 months. I have a 5 year old. And I’m only 30.  I wouldn’t know how to begin with this new voucher program. It’s silly and isn’t fair. I didn’t take a mobility car because the money would help me with expense. I bought a second hand car for cheap.  I do understand that they need a better system to filter out the liars and scammers. But people who genuinely need and rely on the pip system don’t need to be punished. 

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