Labour is leaving millions of claimants in a state of anxiety as it reveals that it is looking at the responses to the Conservative’s green paper on PIP which suggested, amongst other things, the possibility of paying the benefit as vouchers rather than cash.

The Conservatives published a Green Paper on the future of PIP in April 2024.  Amongst the proposals were suggestions that instead of regular cash payments, PIP could be replaced with:

  • A catalogue/shop scheme
  • A voucher scheme
  • A receipt based system
  • One-off grants

The consultation period for the Green Paper ended on 22 July and we know that many of our readers took part and are desperate to know the outcome.

Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Thomas of Winchester tabled a question for the DWP in the House of Lords:

“To ask His Majesty's Government whether they have any plans to change the personal independence payment assessment.”

Yesterday, the answer came from Baroness Sherlock, the DWP minister in the House of Lords:

“We will be engaging with the responses people have made to the previous government's consultation on Personal Independence Payment, which closed on Monday 22 July.

“We want to thank the many people who invested their time in responding.

“We will be considering our own approach to social security in due course.”

The response by Baroness Sherlock makes it seem unlikely that there will be any official statement on PIP changes before the parliamentary summer recess, which lasts from 30 July until 2 September.

However, the House of Commons goes into recess again for the party conference season from 13 September until 6 October.

So, there is a real possibility that PIP claimants will be left without any news for several months.

Written questions by MPs to the secretary of state about the PIP consultation and about WCA changes have yet to receive answers.  We suspect that any responses will simply be stalling ones, but we’ll keep readers posted if we learn anything more.

 

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    · 3 months ago
    Hi there,

    I do Not Agree with the Voucher system I have many health problems and I have Bowel Incontinence so I soil myself I cannot get out of the house to go shopping I also have Constant anxiety aswell I also have copd cause from my used to be husband smoking so get very breathless

    Dolphin_628
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    · 3 months ago
    This is a stupid system how would people be able to pay bills out of vouchers like they do with cash some people may not need to change there disability equipment how are people going to travel by taxi to appointments by public transport or taxi they won't except vouchers we will be in debt or homeless if we can't pay our bills because we have no cash I'm so worried I have physical and other problems to and this is not helping 
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    · 3 months ago
    Basically the disabled are going to pay for truss and co giving the ultra rich tax cuts ect while borrowing money costing the economy 20 billion pounds. Just like we did when the bankers crashed the economy because basically we are a burden on society even though most of us and/or our families have paid into the system all Thier lives untill becoming ill. We need a march to tell this new labour/Tory government to F off.
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    · 3 months ago
    Vouchers won't pay your gas and electric bills rent water bills there taking the dignity away from people as soon as labour got they stopped the rhwanda scheme.why not this one people have put in petitions over this they say they serve the people not them selves well show it the public don't want the Vouchers full stop 
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    · 3 months ago
    I agree with all of these posts but I am trying to console myself by thinking about when these cases are brought to the Supreme Court and what usually happens. Also, I am most interested yo see how many businesses such as gardening services and cleaners ( to name but a few) would accept these vouchers instead of cash? 
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      · 3 months ago
      @Caz D It will not happen. It is never ending doom and gloom from this website. 
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    · 3 months ago
    Reeves is going to make a statement this Monday. It’s rumoured that she’s going to talk about ‘unaffordable benefits’.
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      · 3 months ago
      @Rik With all due respect, I can't find any evidence of this? Most outlets are guessing she'll propose certain taxes (i.e. inheritance, capital gains) are to be raised before they go for anything else.
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      · 3 months ago
      @Rik They can always find money when it suits them. Nobody ever queries the multiple benefits they get in addition to very high salaries.
      The (already billionaires) Royal family are set to get a rise of £45 million yet they can't afford to give some of the poorest people in the country a few quid to make their difficult lives a little easier.

       
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      · 3 months ago
      @Rik Where did you read this 
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      · 3 months ago
      @Rik Can you give a link for this please.
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    · 3 months ago
    I don't think anything will come of it, it's a nonsense idea and offensive to disabled people.  
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    · 3 months ago
    It’s a Tory policy 
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    · 3 months ago
    This is appaling being treated as a second class citizen and laws state you must have a certain amount to live on as well we will be do below the poverty line some people I know since being transferred to uc have lot a couple hundred pound a month we lose this and Britain's homeless issue will be through the roof as well
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      · 3 months ago
      @Alex Not just inflation but also by rent increases as your housing costs are also frozen. So every time your rent goes up your TP goes down. My TP is going to be completely gone after the second tax year. I'll be appox £50 per week worse off. It means that some things I have in place to keep me stable will have to go, my health is going to nosedive.
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      · 3 months ago
      @Ana Yes, you lose the severe disability premium when you go to UC.  They give you a transitional payment, but it gets eaten up by inflation over the years.  Basically you don't get any increases in benefits until the transitional payment is gone. 
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    · 3 months ago
    Dose that mean we Weill still get pip money till the Deccan is made 
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    · 3 months ago
    This is a public bomb which is just going to effect literally everybody on pip and leading to effect other benefits it's a nasty ripple effect government are like a cancer which needs a Reb board from the ground up get an all new government all new MPs all new staff that know all about the government but not corrupted by it thanks peace ✌
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    · 3 months ago
    the government look after themselves the vouchers won’t work.
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    · 3 months ago
    My mental health and fear in leaving my home on day to day basis would not agree with vouchers as I can't leave my home so tell me how would I spend the vouchers Is a fast cos people will result in selling the vouchers in exchange for cash 
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      · 3 months ago
      @Dc I'm the same I cant leave the house so I don't understand how we are suppose to use these my anxiety is through the roof im only just managing now.
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    · 3 months ago
    PIP ought stay as is or increase for those unable to work, for me it means I can pay bills and buy medication unavailable for my conditions on the NHS. This scares me, without PIP I would not be able to live reasonably given I do not enjoy a salary from working
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    · 3 months ago
    I don't know the point putting in vouchers because some people need it for different things and pip is stand for Personal Independence Payment so if they take that away from them what independence they have? 


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    · 3 months ago
    How can they leave people so long what about people in the support group who cannot work and who wants vouchers your playing with peoples life it's very cruel people cannot get out some of them also due to health couldn't hold down a job let alone have to worry I ask them to make up there mind put the record straight on the intentions they seem to be making all the other answers why do people have to wait for this 
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    · 3 months ago
    Labour are playing games and I won't be participating. They are not going to destroy my peace of mind and make me iller.

    I've done a lot of research on recess periods, legislation stages and time averages, time averages after royal accent and trials.

    When you add this all together the earliest this could become law is late 2025, BUT that's the average of these factors for your average NON controversial bill.

    In this case with amendments and delays, backlashes you can add another year at least to this.

    Then when we look at legacy to UC and DLA to PIP and the insane existing backlogs and dwp struggles/staff shortages you're likely not even looking at this parliament at all.

    I do know when the time comes though IF this happens a few people who will come off UC or/and PIP and struggle and a couple who sadly are planning the unthinkable in advance.

    I've emailed a lot of mp including Kendall with my thoughts and opinions on the risks and the distress here on the scope forum and in the offline world and how she can think again if she thinks This won't all end in lawsuits and discrimination trials.


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    · 3 months ago
    It just won't work and they will end up being responsible for many deaths 
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    · 3 months ago
    I feel like feeding the fishes I have over 20 conditions and 3 hernias yet I am still on standard rate. To disappear is easy I feel worthless unable to do simple things, everything is a battle no wonder so many sick people are in such a state vouchers Don't pay for a phone call or for fuel debts a crisis so on and on let's be sensible. Dla was great as soon as it changed to PIP it failed us I had the high rate I had a car for 10 months and then lost it to unqualified people who were paid to fail us.
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      · 3 months ago
      @Laine Yes I had to fight for both ESA and PIP.  Got denied for both, then won at tribunal. 
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      · 3 months ago
      @Lc Please please go to tribunal if you can. Don't give up. So many people are rejected first time then win. 
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    · 3 months ago
    This got  be the worst thing ever   in history  how they do this to people disability hidden disability  etc  it crazy diabolical  most thing in existence ...country b in an uproar
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      · 3 months ago
      @Emily hall It's only came about because hundreds of thousands of people all put in new PIP claim forms.  And it's still rising.  Saying that people cant help being disabled through no fault of their own.  So to stop it spiraling ( pip cost)  we all have to pay for it by either not getting cash, having a voucher scheme etc, which will be worth pittance.

      For any government its a win win situation.  Claimants will be destitute, and forcibly placed into below the poverty line, and become more ill, than they already are.  Sadly to say, resulting in many suicides.  And the goverment wil just play it all down, and make up lies and implement smokescreens as per usual.  And cook the books.  

      I fully understand Labours need to try to sort out the country, after 14 years of Tory austerity.  But there are other ways, which they can save or get monies from.   And claimants are the fist, and easiest option to make savings.

      Labour also need to make sure that they don't fall on a double edged sword.  Come the ending of their tenure, but for now the only thing in their minds is doing what they themselves see fit.



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