A government minister has committed themselves to ‘urgently investigating’ alleged assessment tricks used by PIP and WCA assessors after they were raised by MPs at a meeting of the work and pensions committee last week.  We’re asking if you have had a similar experience?

Chloe Smith, minister for disabled people gave the undertaking to investigate after Dr Ben Spencer gave three examples of “covert assessment” raised by claimants at public meetings he had attended.

The first involved missing water cups, Spencer explained:

“One was there was water available at the assessment centre, the water cooler did not have any cups, but one down the corridor did. It was deliberate that the water cooler was broken or cups were not available to see if a person was able to walk beyond the first water cooler to get some water.”

“Another one was that lifts were broken deliberately, seemingly to assess that people were able to use the stairs.”

The third suspected ruse was a pen drop:

 “One person described the assessor dropping a pen in front of them—I think it was a pen or something like that—to see if the person would pick it up as part of a covert assessment effectively of their mobility.”

Spencer asked the minister “Would you commit to urgently investigating this to confirm whether this is indeed an accurate reflection of practices that are going on at the assessments?”

Smith responded:  “Yes, and if I may add on the example of the lift, I am also keen that all of our facilities are properly accessible. It would be unacceptable to have a deliberately broken lift so, yes, we will look into those.”

Of course, all of these may be perfectly innocent.  It may be that the nearest water cooler ran out of cups first, that the lift really was broken and that the assessor genuinely dropped their pen.

The real proof that these were dirty tricks is if they were used in assessment reports where the claimant was supposedly caught out by them.

But anything connected with the DWP is treated with such suspicion by many claimants that innocent explanations are the least likely to be accepted.

Other issues raised by MPS included what was described as the widespread practice whereby  claimants with a “severe visual impairment have to read letters off a chart at their assessment? Do you think that is acceptable? Do you think it builds trust?”

Another complaint was the lack of specialist knowledge displayed by some assessors.  One complaint received by MPS was that:

“The assessment was completed by a nurse that had never heard of my condition. She said she Googled it 5 minutes before seeing me. You cannot understand a complex condition with a 5 min

Google.”

Have you experienced something that you thought was a dirty trick or particularly bad practice at an assessment.  Let us know in the comments below.

You can watch the full committee hearing or read the transcript here.

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    · 2 years ago
    During my husband's PIP Assessment in 2016 the fire alarm went off and everyone had to be evacuated, according to our 2 children in the waiting room this was done deliberately and we think it was because his assessment was taking too long as no other claimants appeared to be in the building 
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    · 2 years ago
    The automatic door dividing the waiting area from the assessment rooms was "broken." Impulsively, I yanked it open and shouted ın pain because it trigged my hand injury. The assessor exchanged a gleeful glance with the receptionist and later wrote that I had full use of my damaged hand. 

    I dropped my walking stick at one point. I struggled to get it myself using my feet to bring it within reach. She wrote: "Refused to pick up her walking stick when it fell".

    In fact, everything I failed to do, she either said I "refused" to do it, or she ignored it. When I broke down crying, I saw her deliberately turn her head away so she wouldn't see it. Instead, she wrote that I could not have depression because I returned her smile upon introduction.

    My advice: Don't be polite; they will just turn it against you.


     
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    · 2 years ago
    My asseror was trying to rush me into the room but it made no difference cause I could not do it she then asked me to touch my toes I fell over she never offered to help me get up I was crying with pain and she still asked me if I could hold on to the desk and them try stand on my tip toes my partner who was with me at the time lost his temper then and told her no more my review wS done paper based as I have a bad stammer and tge lady on the phone was struggling with understanding me so she sent it to paper review instead but when we got the points back I was awarded zero for communication so we called tgem and asked for a copy of the report 10 weeks later we got a phone call out of the blue at 7.30 in the morning a lady asking why o wanted my report and that I was no going to be given any more money so if I was thinking of logging an Mr I should think again we told her that it was to late to logg MR cause they have taken to long to send the report but that the points awarded are still incorrect she said that if someone was patient they would get the jist of what I was saying g so there for no points for communication is correct told her we were going g to report the call and log a complaint she refused to give her name and hung up 2 days later we got the report and it showed the dwp had ignored the report all together 
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    · 2 years ago
    Going back 6 yrs - Intentionally disregarding  a request for Audio-recording - which was confirmed beforehand - then "not available" on arrival. So, of course, test report included "exercises" which didn't happen plus false statements. Considering women were asked to do leg-raises, they should've been warned beforehand to wear suitable clothing (I had a skirt on). No 'update' to me when 45 min delay after appt. time reached - by which time I needed the loo. Was told I had to go next door to Benefits Agency. The Security Guard there told me they were permanently closed due to claimants "shooting up"!. Back up next door, they told me I had to just "wait" 'til I was called through - where staff member took me to staff loos and stood outside the door whilst I went. Some claimants could've had, e.g. a Colostomy bag, Total lack of human rights/dignity!  I'd paid for 2 hrs. parking, putting pressure on me to continue without Audio but, following their delay, the assessor just "made up" statements to later questions. When I told her I could get a parking ticket (my 2 hrs was up) she just rushed through a few more Q's.  I made a formal complaint raising multiple issues to both DWP and CHDA. DWP just showed contempt - by not even acknowledging it, let alone replying!
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    · 2 years ago
    My sister had a video pip assessment and while she was made an award they deducted points as she was in her flat on her own and was able to take a video assessment 
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      · 2 years ago
      @Amanda How does being able to take a video assessment relate to any of the PIP descriptors?! It's not on the form!
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    · 2 years ago
    another dirty trick is have the seating arranged so that assesors can make out they working at there computers with the door open to see if you kick off about being kept waiting
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    · 2 years ago
    On all my assessments I have been made to walk to the only assessment room available which has always been the furthest away therefore missing out on the points for the distance I can walk and losing my higher rate mobility.  On my last f2f assessment prior to Covid I did explain that I could not walk too far and requested a room nearer but told none was available .  
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      · 2 years ago
      @rmegan This is where we need to have learned from B&W advice beforehand, to point out that even if we DID manage to walk the long corridor etc once, we could not repeat it during the day as necessary, and/or it caused us a lot of pain, and/or we would have to spend the next day/s recovering!
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    · 2 years ago
    Assessor, at a tribunal, asked my wife how she had travelled to the centre.  On being told "My husband drove me here" he then asked where the car was parked (car park was full) and she pointed to far end of car park, about 150 yards away.
    He then claimed that she would have had to walk further than the allownce limit and would no be entitled to any benefit, tobe informed, by me, that I had dropped her off at the door before parking the car.
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    · 2 years ago
    When the assessor, who should be escorting you to the room, sets off at a fast pace to see if you keep up. The natural inclination is to try to keep pace so you don't get lost.  I have had this several times, and it has also happened in the hospital to the point where I have lost the escort. I now just stand still and wait for them to come back to me if they notice I am missing. It is fairly obvious I am not going to move that fast with 2 crutches
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    · 2 years ago
    Dirty tricks being used when you claim any benefit is nothing new. One day I hope benefit claimants realize that everyone working for Dwp is employed to make sure your benefit claim is unsuccessful or if they can't con you out of an award they will try to downgrade it so you receive lower award. 
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    · 2 years ago
    Does it count as a dirty trick writing up physical tests in the assessment that were never conducted?
    Or claiming the claimant 'coped well with the assessment and was not distressed' when they can be heard sobbing and sniffling alternately much of the way through? He even passed her a box of tissues and invited her to take a moment!
    Or failing in the days of almost all F2F to check in advance that any assessor working on the day was willing to be recorded, after WE had had to give 2 weeks' notice of it? Then offering us an unrecorded one? {which we turned down and did win but only at appeal].
    Oh and he tried hard to catch claimant out on walking distance as there is no on site parking for claimants at that building. But tough cheddar I had dropped them right at the door and only then parked the car.
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      · 2 years ago
      @denby I was same in last telephone assessment was told by my advisor that if I needed a break to ask for one. I got extremely upset about different issues and on least 2 occasions I asked to take a break and was told "we don't have time"  luckily my advisor was on the call too and stepped in to say I was legally entitled to have a break but in my assessment she wrote that I coped well communicated accurately and had no distress..... All lies as at some points I couldn't get the answers out.
      At another years ago they were asking me to do exercises which clearly weren't possible had they known my conditions. And I've had the dropped pen done to me but I just left it as no way I could have got it anyway. Also had an assessment that said I walked at a good pace to the room..... When the room that time was away along the corridor and the assessor was way ahead of me and no way could she say I walked at good pace as I struggled immensely. 

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