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Does the Mixing with People overlap with Planning and undertaking journeys?
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8 months 1 week ago #288856 by Blueberry Owl
Does the Mixing with People overlap with Planning and undertaking journeys? was created by Blueberry Owl
Sorry for yet another query.
In preparation for my assessment I’m trying to put together some bullet points for each category regarding how they apply to me and I wondered if these two categories overlap and can be linked? Is there a risk of putting the same difficulties in both categories?
In preparation for my assessment I’m trying to put together some bullet points for each category regarding how they apply to me and I wondered if these two categories overlap and can be linked? Is there a risk of putting the same difficulties in both categories?
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8 months 1 week ago #288863 by Gary
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Hi Blueberry Owl
If you have the same difficulties in each category then say so, you need to explain the difficulties.
This is what the DWP guidance say about Mixing with Other People
This activity considers a claimant’s ability to engage with other people, which means to interact face-to-face in a contextually and socially appropriate manner, understand body language and establish relationships.
Activities 7 and 9 are not mutually exclusive. If claimants require support to engage with others under activity 9, as well as communication support under activity 7, then their needs must be considered under both activities.
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An inability to engage face-to-face must be due to the impact of impairment and not simply a matter of preference by the claimant.
The Going Out activity looks at three things.
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there any problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
If you say your walking is restricted, you would need to be unable to reliably walk more than 50m to score sufficient points for an award just on the Moving Around activity.
Gary
If you have the same difficulties in each category then say so, you need to explain the difficulties.
This is what the DWP guidance say about Mixing with Other People
This activity considers a claimant’s ability to engage with other people, which means to interact face-to-face in a contextually and socially appropriate manner, understand body language and establish relationships.
Activities 7 and 9 are not mutually exclusive. If claimants require support to engage with others under activity 9, as well as communication support under activity 7, then their needs must be considered under both activities.
Notes:
An inability to engage face-to-face must be due to the impact of impairment and not simply a matter of preference by the claimant.
The Going Out activity looks at three things.
Planning a route - this is primarily a cognitive or sensory (e.g. blindness) activity. You are being asked about the problems you would have with working out how to get from one place to another, you do not need to be able to follow the route that you are planning.
Undertaking a Journey - this is to do with mental health issues such as agoraphobia and social anxiety and is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere, they will be interested in the things that stop you doing this. You need to show that you would suffer "overwhelming psychological distress" to meet the criteria.
Following a route - This activity about the problems you would have navigating a route. So are there any problems; cognitive, sensory or mental health issues that would prevent you from doing this? This is different from undertaking a journey, in fact, if you cannot undertake a journey then you will not score points for following one and vice versa.
If you say your walking is restricted, you would need to be unable to reliably walk more than 50m to score sufficient points for an award just on the Moving Around activity.
Gary
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8 months 1 week ago #288877 by Blueberry Owl
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Thanks Gary.
What is the difference between 'follow a route' and 'undertake a journey'?
thanks again.
What is the difference between 'follow a route' and 'undertake a journey'?
thanks again.
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8 months 1 week ago - 8 months 1 week ago #288881 by Gordon
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Replied by Gordon on topic Does the Mixing with People overlap with Planning and undertaking journeys?
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Gary does explain this in his post above!
"Undertaking a Journey... ...is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere"
"Following a route... ...the problems you would have navigating a route"
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Gary does explain this in his post above!
"Undertaking a Journey... ...is concerned with you leaving the house to go somewhere"
"Following a route... ...the problems you would have navigating a route"
Gordon
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8 months 1 week ago #288898 by MDBond
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Hi Blueberry Owl
I know the mobility aspects can be hard to get your head around.
There is a fantastic video/webinar on the PIP Guides page under the following heading:
Claiming the PIP mobility component on mental health grounds – recording
I really recommend watching this video, especially I think the last hour from what I recall is invaluable regarding the mobility aspect, although it is all really useful and I recommend watching it all. Do it in chunks as it's not easy sitting through a 2 hour video in one go. I would also make notes to try and help.
I know the mobility aspects can be hard to get your head around.
There is a fantastic video/webinar on the PIP Guides page under the following heading:
Claiming the PIP mobility component on mental health grounds – recording
I really recommend watching this video, especially I think the last hour from what I recall is invaluable regarding the mobility aspect, although it is all really useful and I recommend watching it all. Do it in chunks as it's not easy sitting through a 2 hour video in one go. I would also make notes to try and help.
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