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Pip moving around meters vs minutes
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2 weeks 4 days ago #297450 by Yesuf
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In my last pip face to face assessment the HP
Didn't ask me how many meter I walk or how many minutes I walk. But he asked my friend (who was with me at the assessment,) how long it take him to walk from the lift to the the road side out side my building. My friend doesn't exactly know but asked him to gusse.
At the medical report the HP wrote you said you can walk 60 m . I don't know how he arrived on that conclusion.
* my question can they estimate the distance by asking some one with you ? Is it legal ?
* how can they change the minutes into meters? Of course the walking speed of normal person and disabled person is not the
same .
* is there any other tricks they use to guess distance you walk.?
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
Didn't ask me how many meter I walk or how many minutes I walk. But he asked my friend (who was with me at the assessment,) how long it take him to walk from the lift to the the road side out side my building. My friend doesn't exactly know but asked him to gusse.
At the medical report the HP wrote you said you can walk 60 m . I don't know how he arrived on that conclusion.
* my question can they estimate the distance by asking some one with you ? Is it legal ?
* how can they change the minutes into meters? Of course the walking speed of normal person and disabled person is not the
same .
* is there any other tricks they use to guess distance you walk.?
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
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2 weeks 3 days ago #297480 by LL26
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Replied by LL26 on topic Pip moving around meters vs minutes
Hi Yesuf,
Unfortunately there is a lot of guesswork involved with DWP and walking distances. Of course this problem is highlighted by a general inability of the population to correctly define distances.
So, its quite easy for a claimant to say he can walk 200m, because he thinks that's how far away he thinks the village shop is located. But it may only be 100m!
Likewise if you start saying you can walk 10 mins the assessor will have assumed that equates to over 200m because most people walk at a speed that gets them to 200m in that time!
The only real way to establish walking ability is to ho out with a friend to pace out, or alternatively check via Google maps, and confirm distance, stood, how long and where the stops took place. Make a note of where any significant pain or eg breathlessness occurs, even if by your nature you crunch through the pain and continue.
Think about repetitions. You need to be able to make several 'journeys' each day. A journey might be predominantly by car, but will of course involve a few steps on foot at each end.
So, take kids into school, go to bank, take Amazon parcel return back to post office, collect kids from school, visit Aunt to give her a Birthday present etc etc. Can you manage all these journeys/walks without feeling too much pain, and at a reasonable pace, and do the same the next day/s? Without a risk of falling over.
Your correct walking is what you can do in this manner for the majority of days. There may be some occasional better days, but don't worry.
However it still maybe that DWP won't accept your properly measured walking ability!!!
I hope this helps.
LL26
Unfortunately there is a lot of guesswork involved with DWP and walking distances. Of course this problem is highlighted by a general inability of the population to correctly define distances.
So, its quite easy for a claimant to say he can walk 200m, because he thinks that's how far away he thinks the village shop is located. But it may only be 100m!
Likewise if you start saying you can walk 10 mins the assessor will have assumed that equates to over 200m because most people walk at a speed that gets them to 200m in that time!
The only real way to establish walking ability is to ho out with a friend to pace out, or alternatively check via Google maps, and confirm distance, stood, how long and where the stops took place. Make a note of where any significant pain or eg breathlessness occurs, even if by your nature you crunch through the pain and continue.
Think about repetitions. You need to be able to make several 'journeys' each day. A journey might be predominantly by car, but will of course involve a few steps on foot at each end.
So, take kids into school, go to bank, take Amazon parcel return back to post office, collect kids from school, visit Aunt to give her a Birthday present etc etc. Can you manage all these journeys/walks without feeling too much pain, and at a reasonable pace, and do the same the next day/s? Without a risk of falling over.
Your correct walking is what you can do in this manner for the majority of days. There may be some occasional better days, but don't worry.
However it still maybe that DWP won't accept your properly measured walking ability!!!
I hope this helps.
LL26
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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