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1 year 2 months ago #283172 by suexx
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Hi,
I got the MR response last week, the result stays the same. It also says my award hasnt changed, but it has, as my enhanced daily living was reduced to standard, as assessor says i can manage with aids, which is impossible, as i cannot grip anything. I used to use aids years ago, but find it impossible to use them now.
I am thinking of appealing, as a few things are incorrect.
They say the award hasnt changed, but it has.
The assessor has contradicted herself, as on one page she says im unable to have a bath, and on a few more pages, says I can get in and out the bath, so can manage with aids.
I never received the decision makers report, even though I asked for it 3 times, so I rang pip, and they read it out to me.
The decision makers statement only mentions mental health issues, which I dont suffer from, so Im presuming they have got my claim mixed up with someone else`s claim.
The assessor says i can manage with aids on a few different areas, because she says I can grip, so I have lost points in all these areas. Do i need to dispute each one again, even though I have sent info about these in great detail previously. I do not believe this further information has been read, or included, as no mention of it on the decision makers letter, or the MR.
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I got the MR response last week, the result stays the same. It also says my award hasnt changed, but it has, as my enhanced daily living was reduced to standard, as assessor says i can manage with aids, which is impossible, as i cannot grip anything. I used to use aids years ago, but find it impossible to use them now.
I am thinking of appealing, as a few things are incorrect.
They say the award hasnt changed, but it has.
The assessor has contradicted herself, as on one page she says im unable to have a bath, and on a few more pages, says I can get in and out the bath, so can manage with aids.
I never received the decision makers report, even though I asked for it 3 times, so I rang pip, and they read it out to me.
The decision makers statement only mentions mental health issues, which I dont suffer from, so Im presuming they have got my claim mixed up with someone else`s claim.
The assessor says i can manage with aids on a few different areas, because she says I can grip, so I have lost points in all these areas. Do i need to dispute each one again, even though I have sent info about these in great detail previously. I do not believe this further information has been read, or included, as no mention of it on the decision makers letter, or the MR.
Many thanks
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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 2 months ago #283173 by Chris
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Hi Suexx,
Oh I know this feeling all too well - when I got my report, I thought a lot of the information was for someone else, but it was basically full of a load of inaccuracies. I think when they say the award hasn't changed, they're meaning the outcome of the original decision that they've given you - but if you can get a copy of the report (I know, you've mentioned asking 3 times), go through the descriptors and mark what is incorrect, and then you can if you choose to, submit it for a tribunal at the courts. There's some great information on this site that will help you with what you can write - and here is a link also with additional information.
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-...s/apply-to-tribunal/
Hope this helps,
Regards, Chris.
Oh I know this feeling all too well - when I got my report, I thought a lot of the information was for someone else, but it was basically full of a load of inaccuracies. I think when they say the award hasn't changed, they're meaning the outcome of the original decision that they've given you - but if you can get a copy of the report (I know, you've mentioned asking 3 times), go through the descriptors and mark what is incorrect, and then you can if you choose to, submit it for a tribunal at the courts. There's some great information on this site that will help you with what you can write - and here is a link also with additional information.
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-...s/apply-to-tribunal/
Hope this helps,
Regards, Chris.
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1 year 2 months ago #283181 by suexx
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for your quick response, and for the useful link.
I got the assessors report, but didnt receive the decision makers report, this is the one pip helpline read out to me.
I worded my previous message wrong, I may have confused you, sorry.
It was the decision makers report that said the award had stayed the same, not the MR, but I didnt understand that, as the decision maker was the one making the decision! It was also the same report that talked all about my problems with mental health, which I dont have.
I then applied for the MR but the decision stayed the same.
Ive been through the assessors report, and I have lost points in preparing food, washing and bathing and dressing/undressing because she says I can use aids instead of assistance.
For the appeal, I am challenging re the daily living being reduced, and the award saying it was staying the same, when it wasnt. Do I say that I am also challenging the report as it was mistakenly talking about mental health, as i know that wont get me any more points, or improve my award, but its obviously wrong for my situation?
Kind regards
Thanks for your quick response, and for the useful link.
I got the assessors report, but didnt receive the decision makers report, this is the one pip helpline read out to me.
I worded my previous message wrong, I may have confused you, sorry.
It was the decision makers report that said the award had stayed the same, not the MR, but I didnt understand that, as the decision maker was the one making the decision! It was also the same report that talked all about my problems with mental health, which I dont have.
I then applied for the MR but the decision stayed the same.
Ive been through the assessors report, and I have lost points in preparing food, washing and bathing and dressing/undressing because she says I can use aids instead of assistance.
For the appeal, I am challenging re the daily living being reduced, and the award saying it was staying the same, when it wasnt. Do I say that I am also challenging the report as it was mistakenly talking about mental health, as i know that wont get me any more points, or improve my award, but its obviously wrong for my situation?
Kind regards
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1 year 2 months ago #283190 by Chris
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Hi Suexx,
Ahhh, it could be me, I'm new to moderating, so still so much that I do not know, or with things I try help with, there may be other options in relation to the information supplied, that could be available.
Both my reports for UC and PIP were highly inaccurate, yet the DM when looking at the MR, backed the HCP all the way - From what I've read on here, it seems to be a regular occurrence that people mention.
I don't know if it's worth wasting your time having something changed if it won't benefit you points wise, however, one of the more experienced mods, I'm sure will be able to point you in the right direction, next time they're on.
Sorry I couldn't be of anymore help, but I promise I'll get there one day, haha.
Regards, Chris.
Ahhh, it could be me, I'm new to moderating, so still so much that I do not know, or with things I try help with, there may be other options in relation to the information supplied, that could be available.
Both my reports for UC and PIP were highly inaccurate, yet the DM when looking at the MR, backed the HCP all the way - From what I've read on here, it seems to be a regular occurrence that people mention.
I don't know if it's worth wasting your time having something changed if it won't benefit you points wise, however, one of the more experienced mods, I'm sure will be able to point you in the right direction, next time they're on.
Sorry I couldn't be of anymore help, but I promise I'll get there one day, haha.
Regards, Chris.
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1 year 2 months ago #283197 by Gordon
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Challenge your DL being reduced but don't waste your time about the award being unchanged, it won't help you get the points you lost back.
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Challenge your DL being reduced but don't waste your time about the award being unchanged, it won't help you get the points you lost back.
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1 year 2 months ago #283205 by suexx
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HI Gordon,
Thanks for your reply.
I wont mention the award being unchanged then.
Do you think i should I mention the decision makers statement being all about mental health, and not about my problems?
Kind regards
Thanks for your reply.
I wont mention the award being unchanged then.
Do you think i should I mention the decision makers statement being all about mental health, and not about my problems?
Kind regards
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