Claimants have been left in a state of deep uncertainty over the government’s response to the work capability assessment (WCA) consultation.  In particular, they want to know what is happening to reassessments for claimants in the support group for employment and support allowance (ESA) or who have limited capability for work-related activity (LCWRA) for universal credit (UC).

The government’s response document gives contradictory messages about whether reassessments for this group, who we will call the LCWRA group to include both ESA and UC, have already ended or whether they will not end until 2025.

The government’s proposals introduce something called the Chance to Work Guarantee.

The Chance to Work Guarantee “is for existing claimants on UC and ESA with LCWRA. This change will be effective from 2025, at the same time as WCA changes are introduced. This change will in effect abolish the WCA for the vast majority of this group, bringing forward a key element of our White Paper proposals and giving people the confidence to try work.”

The meaning of this paragraph seems clear: the abolition of the WCA for existing LCWRA claimants will take place in 2025.

However, in the next paragraph the government states:

“These changes will mean that almost all people who are currently assessed as having LCWRA will never face a WCA reassessment again. Reassessments will only take place under very limited circumstances, which are:

  •  When a claimant reports a change of circumstances in their health condition;
  • If a claimant has been awarded LCWRA for pregnancy risk, or cancer treatment where the prognosis for recovery is expected to be short-term;
  • If a claimant has been declared as having LCWRA under the new risk provisions; and
  • In cases of suspected fraud.”

The phrase “currently assessed as having LCWRA” suggests that almost all current claimants are now safe from reassessment.

Is this simply because there are very few WCA reassessments taking place, so almost all current claimants will not be reassessed anyway?  

Or because a firm decision has been made to end reassessments immediately for people with LCWRA?

At the end of the response document, readers are told:

"Changes to the WCA activities and descriptors will be implemented nationally, no earlier than 2025.

"We want claimants who have already been assessed as having LCWRA to be able to engage with support to move towards work without the fear of reassessment. We have committed to ensuring no one currently assessed as having LCWRA will face a WCA reassessment, save in some exceptional circumstances. This will in effect abolish the WCA for this group, bringing forward a key element of our Health and Disability White Paper proposals and give people the confidence to try work."

The phrase “no one currently assessed as having LCWRA will face a WCA reassessment” seems unambiguous in saying that the WCA has already ended for claimants with LCWRA and it is just changes to the activities and descriptors which will have to wait until 2025.

We wish that we could tell readers categorically what the right answer is.  But the truth is that we don’t know, although we are making strenuous efforts to find out.

There are some of our readers’ questions that we can answer, however.

Mass reassessments

One suspicion that was raised repeatedly when we covered the chancellor’s Autumn statement was that all current LCWRA claimants would be reviewed before 2025 and most would be pushed into the LCW group in advance of the changes.

We can say with some certainty that this won’t happen.

For one thing, there is virtually no possibility of Maximus being able to recruit, train and deploy the vast number of new health professionals that would be needed to reassess everyone who currently has LCWRA between now and 2025.

In addition, figures from December 2022 show that the percentage of DWP decisions for repeat WCAs was:

  • 83% of outcomes for Support Group
  • 13% of outcomes were for Work Related Activity Group
  • 4% of outcomes were found Fit for Work

So, even if the DWP were to reassess all LCWRA claimants before the reformed WCA was introduced, the vast majority would remain in the LCWRA group.  And any appeals would be heard under the rules that applied at the time of the decision, even if the hearing took place when the reformed rules were in place.

Compulsory Chance to Work Guarantee

Another concern that a number of readers raised was that the Chance to Work Guarantee would make it compulsory for existing claimants with LCWRA to try work or work preparation.

This seems extraordinarily unlikely and would undoubtedly require further changes to the law. 

Even under the new proposals the government recognises that there are some claimants for whom any move towards work would be potentially seriously harmful.  A mandatory requirement to try work for current LCWRA claimants would be too dangerous for any administration to consider.

Stay safe

The reality is that if this change comes about, whether it applies now or in 2025, the vast majority of current LCWRA claimants will never have another reassessment because so few are being carried out.

But that does nothing to take away the fear for individual claimants who might be one of the unlucky ones if reassessments are continuing.

We will continue to try to get clarification.

But, in the meantime, we would advise readers to assume that reassessments are to continue until 2025 and that trying out work whilst in the LCWRA group could have serious consequences for your future benefit entitlement.

And if anyone who currently has LCWRA is selected for reassessment over the coming weeks, please let us know.

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    · 11 months ago
    This was omitted from my post, and should have come after ''At the end of Tom Pursglove's answer to Vicky Foxcroft':'

    "Existing LCW claimants will be called for reassessment as normal depending on their circumstances, including their prognosis period and available capacity in the system."

    and before "LCWRA claimants are referred to earlier in his answer." etc. 

    So much for clarity!

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      · 8 months ago
      @reasonstobecheerful Well my circumstances have not changed or prognosis, until they find a cure for my illness, then nothing will ever change.
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    · 11 months ago
    Not so much wishful thinking as reasonable deduction, weighing up all the government responses. At the end of Tom Pursglove's answer to  Vicky Foxcroft:


    LCWRA claimants are referred to earlier in his answer. We could find ambiguity in the term 'existing', however, combined with the published use of 'today' I find sufficient justification for LCWRA group to at least question a reassessment raised after 22/11/23.

    Doodledee: I don't think Mims Davies' (really not straightforward) response is sufficiently clear to lead us to your conclusion that 'Existing LCWRA claimants will still be reassessed up until 2025', simply that, barring the special circumstances, they will not be reassessed after 2025.

    I believe people posting here are right in their judgement of the government's (and Labour's) lack of clarity, competence and transparency. This is why WE have to strive for accuracy and exploit the politicians' inadequacies.
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    · 11 months ago
    what do they mean by "department led reassessments"
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      · 11 months ago
      @Carbow32 Maybe reassessments instigated by dwp, rather than by claimants with change of circumstnces, eg worsening of medical conditions?
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    · 11 months ago
    Although you can never rule out a Tory victory at the next general election, both odds and polls are currently predicting a Labour triumph, therefore, I believe we better question the position of the Labour with regard to reassessments., as the Labour is more ambiguous than the Tories in this regard. 

    Needless to add that the current Labour, under the dictatorship of Keir Starmer, is all about ambiguity and the sort of "we'll let you know when we get in office".
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    · 11 months ago
    We wish that we could tell readers categorically what the right answer is. But the truth is that we don’t know, although we are making strenuous efforts to find out.
    I know everyone at B&W will be busy with the extra demands of Christmas, and their own health needs, just like the rest of us. And that must come first.

    But, oh, I do hope that wherever possible, those "strenuous efforts" will be able to continue. I know i we all, would be tremendously grateful.

     I honestly dont know what i'd do without B&W, thanks so much to you all. 
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    · 11 months ago
    Finally a straight forward answer on the latest question answered today. 

    Question

    Vicky Foxcroft
    Labour
    Lewisham, Deptford
    Commons
    To ask the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, what assessment he has made of the potential impact of the proposed changes to the Work Capability Assessment on disabled people’s finances.
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    Answer

    Mims Davies
    Conservative
    Mid Sussex
    Commons
    Answered on

    12 December 2023
    The vast majority of existing Universal Credit (UC) or Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) claimants will not be affected by the Work Capability Assessment Changes if they have already been assessed as having Limited Capability for Work and Work-Related Activity LCWRA. With the Chance to Work Guarantee, which will be introduced with the WCA changes in 2025, the majority of this group will be able to try work without the fear of reassessment, as we will be switching off department-led reassessments for existing claimants.

    The financial impacts on individuals have been considered in taking decisions on the Work Capability Assessment (WCA), alongside consideration of the responses to the consultation.

    The Office for Budget Responsibility have published their assessment of the numbers that they expect to be affected by the changes and HMT have also published the impacts in their policy costing note that accompanies the Autumn Statement. We will publish an Impact Assessment in due course.
    ————-

    So unfortunately Existing LCWRA claimants will still be reassessed up until 2025 

    Though How many they will be able to get through is a luck of the draw :(
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      · 8 months ago
      @The Dog Mother Yes that's what I said when I first heard it, they will try to get as much people out of the support group as possible, and it looks like I will be reassessed.
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      · 11 months ago
      @Doodledee I don't think this leaves us any clearer. It's completely at odds with the government document's referral to "the commitment that no one with an existing LCWRA decision [b]today[/b] will be reassessed, except in a few limited circumstances'.

      I wouldn't read much into the fact that this statement was made by a minister on the floor of the Commons:  that's no guarantee of its accuracy, to say the least.  Ministers frequently have a poor grasp of policy detail and its entirely possible that that is the case here.
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      · 11 months ago
      @Doodledee Thank you for your research getting this latest parliamentary question response to us very much appreciated.  

      I'm surprised somebody hasn't put it to parliament that we get sent to Rwanda too!
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      · 11 months ago
      @Doodledee Said that below, they were never going to allow us to 'Laguish' on disability benefits until new changes, knew it, because it defeats the purpose somewhat of bringing in the changes to remove anyone in support group. Why would they allow so many to keep LCWRA.
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    · 11 months ago
    Since the government did actually write 'today' could those in Support Group, or with LCWRA before the date of the announcement make a legal challenge to any reassessments raised after the date of the announcement which includes the word 'today'?

    Also, the answer given to Marsha De Cordova's question (see below) very much indicates it is only LCW claimants who might still face reassessment before 2025, and even so, only depending on 'available capacity in the system', which sounds as if Mr Pursglove (seriously, that's his name?) is just trying to keep us on our toes (because he has no clue as to our available capacity 😂).
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      · 8 months ago
      @Trixie So you didn't have a assessment then.
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      · 8 months ago
      @keeping it real Then why are so many in the support group since November 23 are getting reassessed, of lately 
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      · 10 months ago
      @Carol K I had my reassesment form in march 2023. The usual send it back in time or your money will stop.
      They explained they didn’t want me to tell old stuff they knew just new. I couldn’t find my old copy so just did my best. Obviously arthritis gets worse, heart,lung. Blood pressure had all gone weird recently etc. I had a text to say a phone assessment was on 22/12 which I would b at consultants for. New appt for 28 reminders on 22/12 then 25/12 yes Xmas day then 27/12. The First Lady I spoke to said it was probably to raise my care as need more now. I should get the letter next week and will let u know.
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      · 11 months ago
      @keeping it real There's nowhere in the answer given to Marsha De Cordova's question (see below) it indicates it is only LCW claimants who might still face reassessment before 2025. It must be your wishful thinking.
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      · 11 months ago
      @keeping it real My understanding is that reassessments MAY have stopped for existing LCWRA claimants from 22/11/2023 and the people receiving ESA50s were referred prior to that date. 
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    · 11 months ago
    I understand that it is only the following (see below) conditions that mean that existing claiments will be reassessed but have they added in the risk provision one?  This didn't seem to be there in the original press releases etc.

    -  If a claimant has been declared as having LCWRA under the new risk provisions. -

    Does anybody have an idea what this risk provision assessment would mean to existing claimants?

    .  When a claimant reports a change of circumstances in their health condition;
    .  If a claimant has been awarded LCWRA for pregnancy risk, or cancer treatment where the prognosis for recovery is expected to be short-term;
    .  If a claimant has been declared as having LCWRA under the new risk provisions; 
    . and 
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      · 11 months ago
      @CaroA I think it doesn't mean for existing claimants but don't be to sure this government don't even seem to know what the word today means.
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    · 11 months ago
    This is bit that concerns me  about who will still be referred for reassessment 


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      · 11 months ago
      @Aw Thank you this is appreciated - it does look as though it's up in the air, politics affecting everything.  Just need to be kind to ourselves and keep on keeping on.
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      · 11 months ago
      @Aw It seems any claimant until 2025, when their new changes will become effective. But they don't say it as clear as I put it.

      If you read their Autumn statement, they say, "These changes will mean that almost all people who are currently assessed as having LCWRA will never face a WCA reassessment again. These changes will be effective from 2025, at the same time as WCA changes are introduced."
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      · 11 months ago
      @Aw As I see it all are fair game. 
      If they want us all off disability benefits they are not going to allow anyone to 'languish' on them until 2025 and the criteria changes. It doesn't make sense that they would.No matter about how they word their disingenuous drivel. 

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    · 11 months ago
    I am so confused and scared with all this stuff its mental torture on top on a mental health condition.  I have seen this though that might be worth keeping an eye on:

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      · 11 months ago
      @Carbow32 Thank you this is really helpful I will keep an eye on it and hope others do too.
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    · 11 months ago
    I have just found a parliament written question, which seems to answer the question . 
    I hope I am wrong and that somehow tom is as confused as us but I doubt it :( 




    Marsha De Cordova
    Labour
    Battersea
    Commons
    To ask the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, if he will make it his policy that existing claimants are not included in further potential reviews into eligibility for the (a) Limited Capability for Work and Limited Capability for Work and Work-Related Activity categories within Universal Credit and (b) the Work-Related Activity Group and Support Group within Employment and Support Allowance.


    Answer
    Tom Pursglove
    Conservative
    Corby
    Commons
    Answered on

    30 November 2023
    As we have set out clearly in the Government response to the Work Capability Assessment: Activities and Descriptors Consultation (CP 973), through a new ‘Chance to Work Guarantee’, in 2025 we will effectively abolish the WCA for most existing Limited Capability for Work-Related Activity (LCWRA) claimants who are not expected to look for, or prepare for, work. This will remove the fear of reassessments and give people the confidence to try work, while providing continuity of service for vulnerable claimants.

    For claimants in the LCWRA Group in Universal Credit (UC) and the Support Group in Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), reassessments will only take place under very limited circumstances, including:

    When a claimant reports a change of circumstances in their health condition;
    If a claimant has been awarded LCWRA for pregnancy risk, or cancer treatment where the prognosis for recovery is expected to be short-term;
    If a claimant has been declared as having LCWRA under the new risk provisions; and
    In the case of suspected fraud.
    Existing LCW claimants will be called for reassessment as normal depending on their circumstances, including their prognosis period and available capacity in the system.

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      · 10 months ago
      @Gaston20 Even if they reassess in 2024 there'll be the same discriptors because their not changing them till 2025. Isn't it better to be reassessed b4 2025 then so u get another 3yrs of payments which takes u to 2027. Pip changes come in 2026 where if u get that then aswell BTW you'll automatically be given the health element of UC. 
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      · 10 months ago
      @Zon Are they doing no more assessments for LCWRA so they can kick u off it come 2025? I mean pip changes don't come into action till 2026 where if u get pup u also get health element of UC. Seems suspicious to me. That they might be delaying the renewals, so they can then kick u off it in 2025. Maybe I'm wrong but what do people think. 
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      · 11 months ago
      @Zon To be honest that's how I've read it as well..
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      · 11 months ago
      @Carbow32 Try not to let it affect you too much lovely , there is noway that they will be able to assess everyone that’s due a reassessment by next year, and even if they do they have to assess you with the same guidance they did the first time as nothing new would be implemented until 2025 (might not even happen)

      Most are reassessed back into the support group/lcwra it seems. 

      Reassessment figures for 2022 -
      83% of outcomes for Support Group
      13% of outcomes were for Work Related Activity Group
      4% of outcomes were found Fit for Work


      & hopefully come 2025 we will have a new government, lets have hope. Enjoy Christmas and don’t worry about things that may not happen. Take care .
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      · 11 months ago
      @Gaston20 It is for me as well.  I am feeling really unwell its having an effect on my health.  I'm full of anxiety.  My whole body is tense and I've got headaches.  I can't sleep.  I am so afraid of losing LCWRA and the financial consequences of that.  I haven't been assessed for 4 years so my name must be creeping up the list.  Everyday of my life is going to be in a complete state of panic and anxiety for the whole of next year.8
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    · 11 months ago
    To all here....I've just signed the petition to stop government from snooping on benefit claimers bank statements...you will find this petition on the gov.uk website ..please all sign ...do not permit this to go ahead ..it's a violation on our privacy ..we deserve to be treated with dignity respect and fairness the same way people who are healthy and fit to work are treated ...after all we didn't ask to be ill did we ? ...please sign ..keep smiling peeps 
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      · 10 months ago
      @MrFibro We still pay taxes on everything we buy. Surely that counts for something. 
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      · 11 months ago
      @MrFibro I think benefits are taxable now? Except that for most it falls under the personal allowance limit. But I think it IS now taxable income?
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      · 11 months ago
      @Fibrolynn Fibrolynn,

      The difference is workers pay taxes we don't. So the goverment portray us in a different clearly negative light.

      This will never change in our society so long as the rich and elite hold the reigns of power.  It's been going for  centuries if not longer.  The Tories are power crazy, and its profits before people, so they wont give a dam about the ill, sick, disabled people.

      I cannot fathom why there is such a thing as a minister for disabled in Britain, as he or she does jack all to help us.  Instead they bend over to their masters.

      That ministerial role is just a load of baloney to let joe public think they are doing the disabled / sick / ill good, and it's complete the opposite.

      The minister for disabled, has zero clout hence USELESS, money for old rope @ its finest may I say. 

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    · 11 months ago
    Despite Government claims of wanting to help people I suspect that anyone that's had to deal with the DWP will be very sceptical that the politicians and DWP have any claimants best interests at heart.
    All we can be sure of is that they never act in our interests. Every new rule,new policy and new system is designed for one thing. That is to stop as many claimants as possible from qualifying for benefits. Talk of getting people in sustainable work is utter deceit. 
    If the WCA is done away with it will only be replaced by sometime worse.


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    · 11 months ago
    Someone posted today (wed 6th dec) on the forum of this website, saying they’ve just received an ESA 50 form dated 28th November. The person was placed in the support group of ESA many years ago.

    So it appears re-assessments are still happening for those in LCWRA group/support group, despite the government saying no one with an existing LCWRA decision today (22/11/23) will be reassessed (except in a few limited circumstances).

    28th november is after 22/11/23, so I don’t understand why the government used the word “today” in their Response to WCA Consultation Outcome which was published on 22nd. 
    Hopefully, they will clarify what the situation actually is regarding reassessments to Benefits and Work Team, as it’s currently very confusing and unclear. 
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      · 10 months ago
      @MrFibro Yes but the discriptors aren't changing till 2025. So it's best to be reassessed b4 2025 surely? That way claimants get another few yrs on it. Or am I missing something. 
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      · 11 months ago
      @Gaston20 No warning by text, but a reminder to return it if you don't do it promptly. BUt How consistent this is I dont know
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      · 11 months ago
      @LilacGem Maybe or maybe esa support group just don’t receive a referral letter like us on UC Lcwra do.

      Either way it seems I am wrong and they are still going ahead with them :(
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      · 11 months ago
      @Gaston20 i wonder if it depends if you on 'new style' or 'legacy' ESA. Certainly i have never recieved any prior warning that an ESA50 was going to arrive - other than the date given us when ringing them to ask when reassessment is due. 

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      · 11 months ago
      @MrFibro I agree that would be a likely motive for them to reassess as many as possible pre 2025, but they would never send out a mail shot because a) it would cost them time & money & b) it seems to me they have no desire whatsoever to reassure us or to make us less terrified of them! 

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    · 11 months ago
    I recently received a new ESA form for reassessment of my ESA for which I'm in the support group. Despite sending in a large amount of evidence to confirm my medical conditions I still needed to have an over the phone assessment call from the health and disability assessment service which occurred 4 days after leaving hospital after having major spine surgery. This was because they needed more information regarding the surgery I had and its recovery time. I'm now waiting to hear the decision of the DWP. Several other people who go to the same horticultural therapy program have also received new ESA forms too so I believe the DWP are reassessing people in the support group. 
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      · 8 months ago
      @Teresa. O Yip this is what I said they would do in 2024, to reassess has many ESA support group claimants as possible and take away their benefit.
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      · 11 months ago
      @Teresa. O OK,so here's another question, are the people in the support group that have received esa reassessment forms after 22nd Nov also claiming pup,are they targeting support group esa claimants who don't receive pip,just a thought,I know everyone  at b & w are trying to untangle this web of unclear condictory information the dwp have put out,any thoughts?
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      · 11 months ago
      @Teresa. O Good luck with the outcome of your claim Teresa.

      The question as i understand it is whether they are continuing to reassess LCWRA/SG claimants AFTER 21st nov (which was the date the changes were announced...) so that means reassessments started *on or after* Nov 22nd(ie forms sent out on/after that date), rather than whether they were doing them recently.
      the title of the news article is a little confusing in that sense because it ponders whether they have "already" stopped reassessing, but the question is whether the changes relating to LWCRA/SG claimants being reassessed which was announced in the autumn statement, apply from the date they were announced (Nov 21st) as the DWP implied, or not until the rest of the changes take place in 2025.

      So i'd be most interested to know (if you're able to say) when the other members of your group received their ESA forms - if its in the last wk or so since the announcement, or earlier.  
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    · 11 months ago
    This is targeting the most disabled and vulnerable people in society, putting them under alot of stress and worry, it is disgusting.
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    · 11 months ago
    Our daughter has been on DLA for life Then PIP. Then reassessed for PIP and told future assessments would be light touch. Then out of the blue had another ESA50. After years of completing these for her, her brother and my husband , including MR and tribunals ( even my husband who is mid 70´s 100% sight loss and spinal lesion ! ) I don’t think I did the latest ESA 50 justice …, awaiting result ( she’s been in support group for years) . I am an OT by profession and have never agreed with the scoring / outcomes of assessments, but have generally settled for the correct overall assessment…
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    · 11 months ago
    I was put in the ESA support group at my last assessment, which was 6 or 7yrs ago. All previous assessments i had to fight them all the way to a tribunal to get my award back but for some reason on that assessment, i didn't have to fight at all and was put straight into the support group. I've not had any assessments since for ESA, only for my PIP. Its like they have (thankfully) forgotten about me at ESA but i dread any brown envelopes that arrive. 
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      · 11 months ago
      @Nanamoo This is message on my UC journal 
      dated 9th november


      Due to you recent Work capability decision, your next appointment has now been cancelled. You will no longer be required to attend appointments with your work Coach. You will still have access to message your case manager for any payment queries via your journal.
      Kind Regards
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      · 11 months ago
      @Nanamoo Exhausting isn' it?

      For what it is worth, this is the message I received on my UC Journal on the 9th. November this year:


      Kind Regards"

      So this leaves me in a place where I am still checking my UC account every day in case they change their minds!

      I am in the LCW AND WRA

      As such I thought this was good news. 

      However if they were to technically introduce dept led reviews carried out by some other means I would still have the stress.

      I am still receiving PIP - which is supposed to be under review but I received a letter saying they have not yet conducted the review yet, and therefore extending award until DEC next year. As such I will be glad if they don't bother me - they say if they manage to complete the review before then they will contact me. 

      When I had the WCA the person who conducted it appeared to have access to my PIP information as they referred to several aspects of my health condition which I had not managed to include on my UC limited capabilty for work applicaiton.

      I am not sure if they are allowed to do this, but just thought I would write this down in case it is relevant to anyone. 

      Perhaps they have excluded from review people who receive PIP as well as UC. If that is the case then I am one of the 'fortunate' ones so far. 

      Having said that in the past few years - my award of PIP had been refused and I went to tribunal and appeal which only took me two years. 

      What many of us need I know is a total rest from such things as with many health conditons including mine the pain is exacerbated by the stress. 

      Wish you all a peaceful season and hang in there B and W. You are doing good work. 





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    · 11 months ago
    Well an odd thing has happened lately with my ESA payments (I'm in the support group and have been claiming since 1998, while on incapacity I was given a lifetime award) but my last two lots of payments didn't hit my bank account at their usual designated times and both occasions I rang to be told someone has already processed a fast track payment that morning, the first time I was told it was a glitch in payment system but the 2nd time just last week I questioned why it had happened again to me and the guy looked up my claim and reassured me there was no issues with it but said you have a very old claim don't you and used to be on incapacity, well because your file is massive with lots of information attached to your claim we are having to archive it as it's become too much for our system to manage, so perhaps that's had a knock on effect with your payments while they have been working on it. Well as you can imagine I was baffled by that. 

    Anyway today I got a letter to say following a recent change we have looked at your claim again. Then just confirmation of my current award with the enclosed ESA Reporting Changes booklet. 

    I'm now wondering after reading this latest update have they on the quiet carried out a reassessment of my claim ahead of the new changes. 
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      · 8 months ago
      @Soosie This letter is what I got today, but i haven't had a recent change , there hasn't been any change in my circumstances.
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      · 11 months ago
      @Prudent very interesting & a little concerning.... i hope it will be looked into
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      · 11 months ago
      @Soosie very interesting, thanks for flagging this up
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      · 11 months ago
      @Soosie I've had this happen to me a few years ago and it's basically updating their systems which if your file has alot on it then it takes time to transfer to new system,once it's done you get a letter as you received.
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      · 11 months ago
      @And It is interesting that a few of us our currently having the same experience. I am wondering if there is a bigger issue here. It would be an interesting one for Benefits and work to flag up.

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