Reply from DWP decision maker !!!!!

J The Divine B wrote:

Thanks, to bro58 and Derek for the info.

Accepting all, yet I cannot comprehend how the initial decision maker is DWP employee.
In London a completed ESA50 form is required to be sent in post-free and addressed enveloppe to the London Wembley Atos fake 'official address' which is a post box in the wall. I have authoritative admission that this is so to ensure to "negate" Atos patients' contact.

The 'official' address at 3 Olympic Way is in fact dedicated Inland Revenue offices.

John,

I have pushed this issue with my only possible Atos contact, manager in customer-relations,who has had difficulties to get response from me from secret Wembley bunker which has done everything not to respond directly and only releases belatedly and begrudgingly a tiny portion of proper information one requires.

How is it that an Atos 'address' is first port of call and yet the initial decision maker is a DWP non-medical employee?

Do the DWP employee initial decision makers work on-site at Atos fake addresses or is the completed form dispatched from Atos fake letter box or adjacent ofices to the DWP initial decision maker located elsewhere at DWP office?

grateful for any clarification.


PS Nothing to stop one from demanding the written reasons by initial decision maker for requirement to attend for Face to Face assessment? If so, where to write? ---to local fake address or DWP at local Jobcentre Plus or to relevant manager at DWP Benefits HEAD OFFICE for UK which recently moved to Plaza Buildings, Belfast BT1

John,

The DWP decision maker(DM) is the one who actually makes the decision on whether you qualify for benefit or not.

It would be ATOS who decide whether a claimant has to have a face to face, not the DM.

The DM makes his decision Re : award of ESA, using ATOS reports and recommendations, and as previously stated he is supposed to take all available evidence into account.

If the DM wished he could ignore ATOS reports and use evidence supplied by the claimant, if he thought their evidence to be more compelling.(not very likely)

The DM's were being accused of simply going with ATOS's recommendations, however that has now SUPPOSED to have changed.

If you wished to challenge the person who recommended a face to face, that would be an ATOS HCP, not the DWP DM.

You can demand to know what medical qualifications this ATOS HCP has.

The Decision Maker has a legal duty to ensure that their decisions are based on facts which are clearly established by evidence: "A definite distinction is made between fact and opinion and while an opinion on its own may have persuasive value it can never take precedence over an opinion
which is based on clear and concise evidence..

Thanks for the clarification

However, anyone seeking to get a written reply from the relevant Atos HCP who decides Face to Face, will meet a brick wall! ---they will not even acknowledge query on completed ESA 50[at Wembley] despite about 10 reminders mostly directed by necessity via Atos customer relations. Even Atos customer relations team leader one contacted, was fobbed off for more than a week by wembley ---likely the same all over --and even then Wembley provided far less than bare minimum response and obdurately will NOT provide answer directly or name and position or address to me via team leader.