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Next steps after ib medical
- marijo
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13 years 11 months ago #36612 by marijo
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Hi
I have looked for information and cant seem to find it. What I would like to know is:
I recently had a review IB (contribution based) medical and assume that in the likely event that I do not qualify what are the likely outcomes
Do I get transferred automatically to ESA and whatever group or will they just cut me off and I have to apply fresh for ESA.
What are work related groups and support groups. Does that mean I have to go fortnightly into the jobcentre?
Many thanks
Marijo
I have looked for information and cant seem to find it. What I would like to know is:
I recently had a review IB (contribution based) medical and assume that in the likely event that I do not qualify what are the likely outcomes
Do I get transferred automatically to ESA and whatever group or will they just cut me off and I have to apply fresh for ESA.
What are work related groups and support groups. Does that mean I have to go fortnightly into the jobcentre?
Many thanks
Marijo
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13 years 11 months ago #36614 by Gordon
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Replied by Gordon on topic Re:Next steps after ib medical
marijo
Assuming you are not in the two test areas of Burnley and Aberdeen, then as far as I aware your options are;
Appeal the decision, if you are successful you will be put back onto IB.
Make a new application for ESA.
Apply for JSA, providing you believe you can fulfill the requirement to seek work. This would require a regular trip to your local Job Centre.
Become economically inactive.
ESA is a points based system similar to but different from IB, you need 15 points to be have Limited Capability to Work, which will put you in the Work Realted Activity Group. You are required to attend six Work Focused Interviews while you are in the WRAG.
For the those with more serious disabilities there is the Support Group. Entry to this is not points based, instead you must meet one or more of the criteria.
You can read about ESA and both of the groups in the "Understanding ESA" document in the Members Area.
Hope this helps
Gordon
Assuming you are not in the two test areas of Burnley and Aberdeen, then as far as I aware your options are;
Appeal the decision, if you are successful you will be put back onto IB.
Make a new application for ESA.
Apply for JSA, providing you believe you can fulfill the requirement to seek work. This would require a regular trip to your local Job Centre.
Become economically inactive.
ESA is a points based system similar to but different from IB, you need 15 points to be have Limited Capability to Work, which will put you in the Work Realted Activity Group. You are required to attend six Work Focused Interviews while you are in the WRAG.
For the those with more serious disabilities there is the Support Group. Entry to this is not points based, instead you must meet one or more of the criteria.
You can read about ESA and both of the groups in the "Understanding ESA" document in the Members Area.
Hope this helps
Gordon
Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems
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- Survivor
13 years 11 months ago #36616 by Survivor
Replied by Survivor on topic Re: Next steps after ib medical
If you're on IB and you fail your medical, you can appeal, in which case you can claim ESA whilst you are appealing, otherwise you won't get ESA.
If you don't appeal, or if you fail your appeal, you won't get ESA unless your condition deteriorates, in which case you can make a fresh claim for ESA.
The work related activity group (WRAG) and the support groups relate to ESA. If you're put in the WRAG, you have to participate in work-related activity which could mean, for example, attending interviews or attending training on filling in CVs etc. If you're put in the support group, you don't have to do this, and you get more money (though not a lot.)
If you don't get either IB or ESA, you can claim JSA. If you do that, you will have to enter into a jobseeker's agreement with the job centre, which is a sort of plan of how you're going to find work. You will have to sign on, and when you do so, you will have to be able to show what active steps you have taken to find work, in accordance with your agreement.
If you don't appeal, or if you fail your appeal, you won't get ESA unless your condition deteriorates, in which case you can make a fresh claim for ESA.
The work related activity group (WRAG) and the support groups relate to ESA. If you're put in the WRAG, you have to participate in work-related activity which could mean, for example, attending interviews or attending training on filling in CVs etc. If you're put in the support group, you don't have to do this, and you get more money (though not a lot.)
If you don't get either IB or ESA, you can claim JSA. If you do that, you will have to enter into a jobseeker's agreement with the job centre, which is a sort of plan of how you're going to find work. You will have to sign on, and when you do so, you will have to be able to show what active steps you have taken to find work, in accordance with your agreement.
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- Survivor
13 years 11 months ago #36617 by Survivor
Replied by Survivor on topic Re: Next steps after ib medical
Cross-posted with Gordon, but I think we've basically said the same thing.
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13 years 11 months ago #36623 by Survivor
Replied by Survivor on topic Re: Next steps after ib medical
I forgot to mention that you can put in a claim for ESA after failing IB without your condition deteriorating. I know that if you fail an ESA medical, you have to wait six months, but I'm not sure after failing an IB medical and I'm now checking the point. It may be this evening before I come back to you on this unless one of my fellow moderators comes to the rescue in the meantime.
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13 years 11 months ago #36632 by cdcdi1911
Replied by cdcdi1911 on topic Re:Next steps after ib medical
This is a fairly complex one. See the link below.
Welfare Rights Bulletin 210:Incapacity to limited capacity
Welfare Rights Bulletin 210:Incapacity to limited capacity
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